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RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - SCN-3_NULL - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:18 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:14 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: i think that anti-tank sword qualifies as "fuck you" because that's
more like something you'd stick on a vehicle in terms of size and weight.
that's what I'm saying. in the image they compare it's size to a girl in combat armor, who is probably the intended operator, and yet it's size means it would be more at home in the hands of one of my Vulcan heavy infantry droids than of ANY human.
It's from Valkyria Chronicles 3, that PSP game in kinda WW2 like setting(fictional world) and it's s part of a special operation squad, so basically an elite soldier, specifically lance and fencer class combined
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Ehksidian - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:24 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:18 AM)Surge Wrote: that's what I'm saying. in the image they compare it's size to a girl in combat armor, who is probably the intended operator, and yet it's size means it would be more at home in the hands of one of my Vulcan heavy infantry droids than of ANY human.
It's from Valkyria Chronicles 3, that PSP game in kinda WW2 like setting(fictional world) and it's s part of a special operation squad, so basically an elite soldier, specifically lance and fencer class combined
that still doesn't make any sense from a "i'm going to actually use this as a sword or even a gun while on the move" standpoint
then again
japan
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Comito - 04-16-2015
Joey's avatar just remound me of this.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Surge - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:29 AM)Ehksidian Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:24 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: It's from Valkyria Chronicles 3, that PSP game in kinda WW2 like setting(fictional world) and it's s part of a special operation squad, so basically an elite soldier, specifically lance and fencer class combined
that still doesn't make any sense from a "i'm going to actually use this as a sword or even a gun while on the move" standpoint
then again
japan
while on the move? mate that looks like an M2 HMG, a gun you already have to be fucking rambo to even attempt to fire while standing, but rechambered for some fuckhuge round, you won't be firing that thing period, and I doubt even rambo could swing all that weight in any fashion that would be useful in melee.
edit: okay the similarities with the M2 end at the action, but that thing is chambered to 20-30mm, which is well beyond what can safely be operated on foot, nevermind withouth any sort of stock.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Umbra - 04-16-2015
(04-15-2015, 11:58 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:
it is part sword part anti tank gun/machinegun,
![[Image: VAR+PRINT.jpeg]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hxhtBOHPBWY/T07AmChavTI/AAAAAAAAAGI/vahGgWW2dQg/s1600/VAR+PRINT.jpeg)
Oh my god.
I want one.
...In a reasonable size.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Surge - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:37 AM)Umbra Wrote:(04-15-2015, 11:58 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:
it is part sword part anti tank gun/machinegun,
Oh my god.
I want one.
...In a reasonable size.
![[Image: lUSe9tc.gif]](http://i.imgur.com/lUSe9tc.gif)
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Umbra - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:44 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:37 AM)Umbra Wrote: Oh my god.
I want one.
...In a reasonable size.
...
Is this seriously happening.
You're trusting me with a sword-gun.
Someone pinch me. This can't be real.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - SCN-3_NULL - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:37 AM)Umbra Wrote:(04-15-2015, 11:58 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:
it is part sword part anti tank gun/machinegun,
Oh my god.
I want one.
...In a reasonable size.
"Baby gun"
![[Image: KucerSword.jpg]](http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/KucerSword.jpg)
Apperently this is a real thkng called pistol swords
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Surge - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:48 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:37 AM)Umbra Wrote: Oh my god.
I want one.
...In a reasonable size.
"Baby gun"
Apperently this is a real thkng called pistol swords
yup. from back when pistols were only used by officers, who carried swords anyways for traditional and ceremonial reasons, and pistols were also hard enough to reload that there was a very real chance of needing a sword at some point in between each shot.
(04-16-2015, 12:46 AM)Umbra Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:44 AM)Surge Wrote:
...
Is this seriously happening.
You're trusting me with a sword-gun.
Someone pinch me. This can't be real.
![[Image: zGjWwaS.png]](http://i.imgur.com/zGjWwaS.png)
ain't nothing in this world for free.
I'll collect at a later date though.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Ehksidian - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:50 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:48 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: "Baby gun"
Apperently this is a real thkng called pistol swords
yup. from back when pistols were only used by officers, who carried swords anyways for traditional and ceremonial reasons, and pistols were also hard enough to reload that there was a very real chance of needing a sword at some point in between each shot.
(04-16-2015, 12:46 AM)Umbra Wrote: ...
Is this seriously happening.
You're trusting me with a sword-gun.
Someone pinch me. This can't be real.
ain't nothing in this world for free.
I'll collect at a later date though.
how would most of us even pay
i can't pull money out of thin air. Well, money you can use...i don't think people would accept little slips of paper labeled "free drink" as payment.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Umbra - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 12:50 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 12:46 AM)Umbra Wrote: ...
Is this seriously happening.
You're trusting me with a sword-gun.
Someone pinch me. This can't be real.
ain't nothing in this world for free.
I'll collect at a later date though.
All right. Fine by me. I have something that might be sufficient payment, anyway.
(04-16-2015, 01:18 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: how would most of us even pay
i can't pull money out of thin air. Well, money you can use...i don't think people would accept little slips of paper labeled "free drink" as payment.
We could probably work out some kind of barter system.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Surge - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:18 AM)Ehksidian Wrote:like I said, I'll collect at a later date, and despite my reputation for unnecessary cruelty to deadbeats I won't be looking to collect something I know can't be offered.(04-16-2015, 12:50 AM)Surge Wrote: yup. from back when pistols were only used by officers, who carried swords anyways for traditional and ceremonial reasons, and pistols were also hard enough to reload that there was a very real chance of needing a sword at some point in between each shot.
ain't nothing in this world for free.
I'll collect at a later date though.
how would most of us even pay
i can't pull money out of thin air. Well, money you can use...i don't think people would accept little slips of paper labeled "free drink" as payment.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Ehksidian - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:23 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 01:18 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: how would most of us even paylike I said, I'll collect at a later date, and despite my reputation for unnecessary cruelty to deadbeats I won't be looking to collect something I know can't be offered.
i can't pull money out of thin air. Well, money you can use...i don't think people would accept little slips of paper labeled "free drink" as payment.
Huh. That's good to know. I have...plenty of things assimilated that I can use as weaponry, so I don't really need anything else. I can defend myself fine enough.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Surge - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:27 AM)Ehksidian Wrote:(04-16-2015, 01:23 AM)Surge Wrote: like I said, I'll collect at a later date, and despite my reputation for unnecessary cruelty to deadbeats I won't be looking to collect something I know can't be offered.
Huh. That's good to know. I have...plenty of things assimilated that I can use as weaponry, so I don't really need anything else. I can defend myself fine enough.
the point is to create a combo melee/ranged weapon for umbra anyways, and making a gun that is practical in a swordfight as well is going to be the real issue, I doubt I'll be able to base the gun part off anything bigger than a carbine for weight reasons.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Ehksidian - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:29 AM)Surge Wrote: the point is to create a combo melee/ranged weapon for umbra anyways, and making a gun that is practical in a swordfight as well is going to be the real issue, I doubt I'll be able to base the gun part off anything bigger than a carbine for weight reasons.
Most likely, yeah. A gun with a blade attached doesn't mean it works as a sword, after all. Good for stabs? Possibly. good for prolonged sword fighting? Certainly not.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Surge - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:33 AM)Ehksidian Wrote:(04-16-2015, 01:29 AM)Surge Wrote: the point is to create a combo melee/ranged weapon for umbra anyways, and making a gun that is practical in a swordfight as well is going to be the real issue, I doubt I'll be able to base the gun part off anything bigger than a carbine for weight reasons.
Most likely, yeah. A gun with a blade attached doesn't mean it works as a sword, after all. Good for stabs? Possibly. good for prolonged sword fighting? Certainly not.
well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Ehksidian - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:35 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 01:33 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: Most likely, yeah. A gun with a blade attached doesn't mean it works as a sword, after all. Good for stabs? Possibly. good for prolonged sword fighting? Certainly not.
well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
and thus a truly effective gunsword is made.
though...reloading and aiming may be an issue, I assume.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Umbra - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:35 AM)Surge Wrote:(04-16-2015, 01:33 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: Most likely, yeah. A gun with a blade attached doesn't mean it works as a sword, after all. Good for stabs? Possibly. good for prolonged sword fighting? Certainly not.
well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Ehksidian - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:37 AM)Umbra Wrote:(04-16-2015, 01:35 AM)Surge Wrote: well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
that is truly an awful idea
guns akimbo isn't something that really works, a gun and sword held like that would be even less effective.
RE: Avali Nexus Forum 1: A Cold Phoenix - Joeythomas - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 01:37 AM)Umbra Wrote:Gun and brass buckles?(04-16-2015, 01:35 AM)Surge Wrote: well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
Gernade launcher and scythe?