(06-21-2015, 08:09 PM)Teron Wrote: Just to toss out there from a personal perspective, but I would reason the incredibly caustic vitriol that gets posted here by certain folks who are incredibly [redacted] about people doing something else which they like but said group doesn't, is far more detrimental and dividing the community more than any communication-type preference.

Past few pages reminded me why I have no desire to be active here.

Take it for what you will.

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Rukii Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:11 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: And again, we are coming to the conclusion that this Forum is no winner either (which makes sense, because if it was there would be no need for Skype). The Skype frag exists because this forum is not perfect for everyone, in the way it functions, the way we post (why the hell can't we make multiple topics again?), and the way it runs.

I don't understand why no-one is getting the idea that we need to get together and find the right solution to our communication problems. Do we seriously have blind, raving maniacs on both sides?

We have you, Surge... and Kc ????? Dunno.
-  on the "everything is shit" side.

Then pretty much everyone on the other side at this point, I'd think.

And forum is a forum, there is no issue. Skype is for other contact and communication, which may or may not even be slightly relevant with anything Nexus forum, at all.

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Intrebute Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:13 PM)Surge Wrote: Apparently some people just legitimately hate the nexus as a community and only come around to look for the occasional shitshow to take as a representation of an average day.

It's the only I ever hear of here anymore. Literally the only I ever hear of here anymore.

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Silverduke1 Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:14 PM)Cole4110 Wrote: Well this is just a fine pickle isn't it o^o
It gets too steamy in here for me a lot of the time frankly so i stick to skype
Its nice and cool there! We even have juice! the fruitiest of fruit juice.

sounds tasty

(06-21-2015, 08:19 PM)SilverOtter Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Rukii Wrote: And forum is a forum, there is no issue. Skype is for other contact and communication, which may or may not even be slightly relevant with anything Nexus forum, at all.

If it's only supposed to be slightly relevant, then why does it almost entirely replace the forums as your Nexus communication of choice?

And for those who are wondering, fuck yeah am I adamant about this. I've poured way to many hours into this community only for that to be worthless because some of us can't sit together and work our problems out.

Quote:Cherry picking. Like, cherry picking in the extreme. When you only use Skype obviously you won't hear about the more mundane discussions and KC's shitposting sprees, but somebody will pop up "guys the forum is talking about us again" without fail.

Quote:I've been the only opposition before, I've also been completely right as the only opposition to something before.

(06-21-2015, 08:23 PM)Cole4110 Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Silverduke1 Wrote: sounds tasty

Very tasty! Only the finest of spiced vali drinks o wo
With 90% less drama lamma too!

(06-21-2015, 08:25 PM)Surge Wrote: I don't even need to point out the "we aren't saying Skype is better" followed immediately by "Skype is way better" anymore.

(06-21-2015, 08:29 PM)Cole4110 Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:25 PM)Surge Wrote: I don't even need to point out the "we aren't saying Skype is better" followed immediately by "Skype is way better" anymore.

I dont think it was ever really a matter of saying who was better till it got brought up in the forums o^o
even then its just personal preference and some of us prefer IMS while some like forums, simple as that

(06-21-2015, 08:24 PM)Rukii Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:19 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: If it's only supposed to be slightly relevant, then why does it almost entirely replace the forums as your Nexus communication of choice?

And for those who are wondering, fuck yeah am I adamant about this. I've poured way to many hours into this community only for that to be worthless because some of us can't sit together and work our problems out.

As have been said before, real life is an issue to many.

Some people are quite frankly a bit shit here, so not all topics or posts feel -right- to post?

You're still thinking of it as a ratio of posts, it's not like people are posting there instead, they're saying things that would otherwise be unsaid.
  That's how other media of interaction work.

Personally I don't feel like posting shitty five minute scribbles all the time, because i'll come off as a cheeky attention whore, or something, I guess.

Quote:Cherry picking. Like, cherry picking in the extreme. When you only use Skype obviously you won't hear about the more mundane discussions and KC's shitposting sprees, but somebody will pop up "guys the forum is talking about us again" without fail.

People still read, dear. assuming they don't, even as it's been said before, is just your usual flavour of made up information.

Quote:I've been the only opposition before, I've also been completely right as the only opposition to something before.

Right in an issue regarding a community, as a single person?

I'm afraid that is entirely a impossible scenario, by definition.

(06-21-2015, 08:20 PM)Surge Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Rukii Wrote: We have you, Surge... and Kc ????? Dunno.
-  on the "everything is shit" side.

Then pretty much everyone on the other side at this point, I'd think.

And forum is a forum, there is no issue. Skype is for other contact and communication, which may or may not even be slightly relevant with anything Nexus forum, at all.

I've been the only opposition before, I've also been completely right as the only opposition to something before.

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Intrebute Wrote: It's the only I ever hear of here anymore. Literally the only I ever hear of here anymore.

Cherry picking. Like, cherry picking in the extreme. When you only use Skype obviously you won't hear about the more mundane discussions and KC's shitposting sprees, but somebody will pop up "guys the forum is talking about us again" without fail.

(06-21-2015, 08:40 PM)Reks Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:20 PM)Surge Wrote: I've been the only opposition before, I've also been completely right as the only opposition to something before.
Cherry picking. Like, cherry picking in the extreme. When you only use Skype obviously you won't hear about the more mundane discussions and KC's shitposting sprees, but somebody will pop up "guys the forum is talking about us again" without fail.

Alright.

So being right on one case in opposition makes you right in every one of them. Surge, I certainly hope you never make moderator again. You don't know how to be 'moderate'. If negativity is all you know, maybe you should look in a mirror and discover that it's the same fucking source of your problems as much as you think it fuels you.

Whatever, you won't believe what I say anyway. Have fun with your eternal loops.



Otter. There is a problem because you tossed the big steaming pile of shit that is the problem in the open. Things weren't completely okay before, no... But they weren't anywhere near as bad until you shined a light on them and decided to wedge a fucking pickaxe in the cracks to make it worse. But just as adamantly as you are on the issue of splitting, I've adamantly determined that worrying about fixing the 'issue' when obviously more than half of us don't see it because it's not that big of a fucking deal is actually DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY.

Seriously. I don't want to be here anymore. I have better things to do. More important shit to worry about, like getting a goddamn job to support my family.

Wanna know something else?



The very issue you're trying to fix IS THE BULLSHIT EVERYONE WANTS TO AVOID BECAUSE IT'S THROWN IN OUR FACES LIKE THE WORST ISSUE IN THE WORLD.

So you know what? I'm done here. I don't need this pointless shit stressing me out. So I'll stay on Skype PRECISELY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FUCKING CIRCUS.

Bye, forumites.

(06-21-2015, 08:45 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: at this point a drama thread where everything drama gets moved to might actually be a decent idea.
i'd write a longer post about something i've wanted to say for a while (not related to this, not is it really drama) though i think i'll wait till tomorrow as it's getting a tad late here.

(06-21-2015, 08:44 PM)Surge Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:40 PM)Reks Wrote: Alright.

So being right on one case in opposition makes you right in every one of them. Surge, I certainly hope you never make moderator again. You don't know how to be 'moderate'. If negativity is all you know, maybe you should look in a mirror and discover that it's the same fucking source of your problems as much as you think it fuels you.

Whatever, you won't believe what I say anyway. Have fun with your eternal loops.



Otter. There is a problem because you tossed the big steaming pile of shit that is the problem in the open. Things weren't completely okay before, no... But they weren't anywhere near as bad until you shined a light on them and decided to wedge a fucking pickaxe in the cracks to make it worse. But just as adamantly as you are on the issue of splitting, I've adamantly determined that worrying about fixing the 'issue' when obviously more than half of us don't see it because it's not that big of a fucking deal is actually DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY.

Seriously. I don't want to be here anymore. I have better things to do. More important shit to worry about, like getting a goddamn job to support my family.

Wanna know something else?



The very issue you're trying to fix IS THE BULLSHIT EVERYONE WANTS TO AVOID BECAUSE IT'S THROWN IN OUR FACES LIKE THE WORST ISSUE IN THE WORLD.

So you know what? I'm done here. I don't need this pointless shit stressing me out. So I'll stay on Skype PRECISELY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FUCKING CIRCUS.

Bye, forumites.

And clearly the majority is right simply because they are the majority. You all have telepathy and know exactly what's best for the community in the long run and there's no room for debate because you said so.

I didn't buy it last time and I won't stand by while another community tears itself apart for selfish reasons.

(06-21-2015, 08:20 PM)Surge Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Rukii Wrote: We have you, Surge... and Kc ????? Dunno.
-  on the "everything is shit" side.

Then pretty much everyone on the other side at this point, I'd think.

And forum is a forum, there is no issue. Skype is for other contact and communication, which may or may not even be slightly relevant with anything Nexus forum, at all.

I've been the only opposition before, I've also been completely right as the only opposition to something before.

(06-21-2015, 08:16 PM)Intrebute Wrote: It's the only I ever hear of here anymore. Literally the only I ever hear of here anymore.

Cherry picking. Like, cherry picking in the extreme. When you only use Skype obviously you won't hear about the more mundane discussions and KC's shitposting sprees, but somebody will pop up "guys the forum is talking about us again" without fail.

(06-21-2015, 08:53 PM)Corosar Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:44 PM)Surge Wrote: And clearly the majority is right simply because they are the majority. You all have telepathy and know exactly what's best for the community in the long run and there's no room for debate because you said so.

I didn't buy it last time and I won't stand by while another community tears itself apart for selfish reasons.

know what is absolutely funny? i am not even in the "avali nexus skype group" anymore... i could not stand the drama crap that goes on with any nexus gathering anymore... its always " ohh look there is somthing to fight about lets fight about it" or "this is better than that we should shout at each other about it" or god forbid for me " oh look marxon is causing drama again come see!" i remember when i could come to the nexus and smile at what was going on... now its a fucking chore to come to the forum.... sure i made great friends here... but not the majority they are just aquaintences to me now... its a bit fustrating to see that you guys are arguing over having a skype group and a forum.... seriously... you guys are running out of things to talk about arn't you?

(06-21-2015, 08:53 PM)Teron Wrote: Some pretty warped [Redacted] logic that the majority can't do what they want because of a couple people, on claims of 'community preservation'.  But if the bulk of people don't count as the community, what does?  Same kind of thinking that really fucks up the real world.

I just...  Wow.

If I had to nominate the main benefit of Skype.  No Surge-lib-logic.

(06-21-2015, 08:58 PM)Cole4110 Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:53 PM)Teron Wrote: Some pretty warped [Redacted] logic that the majority can't do what they want because of a couple people, on claims of 'community preservation'.  But if the bulk of people don't count as the community, what does?  Same kind of thinking that really fucks up the real world.

I just...  Wow.

If I had to nominate the main benefit of Skype.  No Surge-lib-logic.

The lack of surge mc. cheekbones in skype is a great plus in my opinion o wo
Dont forget the fruit juice though o Ao

(06-21-2015, 08:53 PM)Corosar Wrote:

(06-21-2015, 08:44 PM)Surge Wrote: And clearly the majority is right simply because they are the majority. You all have telepathy and know exactly what's best for the community in the long run and there's no room for debate because you said so.

I didn't buy it last time and I won't stand by while another community tears itself apart for selfish reasons.

know what is absolutely funny? i am not even in the "avali nexus skype group" anymore... i could not stand the drama crap that goes on with any nexus gathering anymore... its always " ohh look there is somthing to fight about lets fight about it" or "this is better than that we should shout at each other about it" or god forbid for me " oh look marxon is causing drama again come see!" i remember when i could come to the nexus and smile at what was going on... now its a fucking chore to come to the forum.... sure i made great friends here... but not the majority they are just aquaintences to me now... its a bit fustrating to see that you guys are arguing over having a skype group and a forum.... seriously... you guys are running out of things to talk about arn't you?