(09-07-2015, 11:24 AM)Gonzogonz Wrote: Ryuujin, to my knowledge you don't take art requests, but there was one thing i've missed about the Avali and either i've just, well, missed it, or it isn't there, which would be bad.
sorry, to the point: how do you draw an Avali? i mean if youlook up drawing tutorials on the net you can find thousands of tips and tricks and step-by-step ways to draw humans, vehicles, (anthro) animals, yet there don't seem to be one for Avali.
and while there are plenty of good Avali artists out there (looking at you Nexeron) you're probably still the most knowledgeable in terms of ho to draw them.

i'm asking this due to personally want to learn to draw (i currently draw like a quad-amputated dog with a dull pencil up it's butt) and i've gotten a few new friends who are quite good at drawing, both traditional and digital and they seem to have a hard time grasping how to go about drawing an Avali.

i'm not sure how long this would take, again, not an artist myself, but it owuld be nice and useful to have this.

How to draw anything

Aside from practice like this, you've gotta draw a lot of things terribly for quite a while, before you learn to even draw a single thing "right"
(Tutorials in general, and "how to draw"'s really aren't all that effective/what you need when you're starting out either - until you've at the very least learnt to handle a pencil) 

(09-18-2015, 04:21 AM)Comito Wrote: There used to be a picture with three silhouettes of drone designs, but I think it was lost in that DDOS. Do you still have it?

(09-18-2015, 04:21 AM)Comito Wrote: There used to be a picture with three silhouettes of drone designs, but I think it was lost in that DDOS corruption. Do you still have it?

(09-18-2015, 04:18 PM)Rukii Wrote:

(09-18-2015, 04:21 AM)Comito Wrote: There used to be a picture with three silhouettes of drone designs, but I think it was lost in that DDOS corruption. Do you still have it?

(11-30-2015, 07:09 PM)Ryuujin Wrote: I'm just gonna leave this here

(The amount of nakedvali bothered me :p - While they don't have a nudity taboo as we know it. That doesn't mean they don't dress. They'd still bring equipment and covering relevant to their role.

I also had a musing on tools, and concluded since they work in teams, it's not unreasonable that some devices that might benefit from extra hands - like a wrench, would be over-sized by our standards so more than one vali can grip the lever and help. This also helps emphasise their tiny relative size)

(12-01-2015, 07:20 AM)Shaadaris Wrote:

(11-30-2015, 07:09 PM)Ryuujin Wrote: I'm just gonna leave this here

(The amount of nakedvali bothered me :p - While they don't have a nudity taboo as we know it. That doesn't mean they don't dress. They'd still bring equipment and covering relevant to their role.

I also had a musing on tools, and concluded since they work in teams, it's not unreasonable that some devices that might benefit from extra hands - like a wrench, would be over-sized by our standards so more than one vali can grip the lever and help. This also helps emphasise their tiny relative size)

First of all, I love Avali clothing - dem cloaks~
Secondly, I'm now picturing a bunch of Avali hanging off the side of a giant wrench with their feet wiggling in the air trying to touch ground, and that is adorable.

(11-30-2015, 07:09 PM)Ryuujin Wrote: I'm just gonna leave this here

(The amount of nakedvali bothered me :p - While they don't have a nudity taboo as we know it. That doesn't mean they don't dress. They'd still bring equipment and covering relevant to their role.

I also had a musing on tools, and concluded since they work in teams, it's not unreasonable that some devices that might benefit from extra hands - like a wrench, would be over-sized by our standards so more than one vali can grip the lever and help. This also helps emphasise their tiny relative size)

(12-04-2015, 01:53 AM)YDH Wrote: So here's a question. Do avali have mounts? Do they domesticate animals at all, or rely solely on hunting for their meat?

I'm imagining an avali mounted atop a giant chocobo-like creature.

Addendum: Given that the Avali's primary sense is hearing, and that their ears basically shut down when exposed to loud noises to avoid damage, would a device that emits a continuous loud tone essentially render them "blind" until someone switches it off? Or am I misunderstanding the effect of "relaxing the inner ear?"

I can see this being used against them in infantry combat by races with a narrower hearing range... human or apex soldiers running a noise generator that is deafening/blinding to Avali but outside their own frequency range. I assume the solution for this would be for Avali infantry to have enclosed helmets with additional sensors that can compensate and shut out the interference.

(12-12-2015, 10:41 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote:

(12-04-2015, 01:53 AM)YDH Wrote: So here's a question. Do avali have mounts? Do they domesticate animals at all, or rely solely on hunting for their meat?

I'm imagining an avali mounted atop a giant chocobo-like creature.

Addendum: Given that the Avali's primary sense is hearing, and that their ears basically shut down when exposed to loud noises to avoid damage, would a device that emits a continuous loud tone essentially render them "blind" until someone switches it off? Or am I misunderstanding the effect of "relaxing the inner ear?"

I can see this being used against them in infantry combat by races with a narrower hearing range... human or apex soldiers running a noise generator that is deafening/blinding to Avali but outside their own frequency range. I assume the solution for this would be for Avali infantry to have enclosed helmets with additional sensors that can compensate and shut out the interference.

as for your first question, i've already asked that and Ryuu pretty much just said "not part of the Avali thought exercise; unimportant" though i agree, it'd be neat to see Avali mounted on some form of creature.
though from what i know, domesticating creatures (while they are not obsolete due to better tech) is rather difficult. Europe and such had a handful of easily domesticated creatures, which early on gave them a boost. but now that we have cars, we rarely see horses moving our stuff around.
that and given the world of Avalon is a pretty harsh place compared to something like central Germany, i'd doubt there'd be a whole lot of easily domesticated wildlife suitable for riding or large-scale transport.
and given Avali were nomads who preferred to travel light, i'd guess they didn't have much access to much more than hand-pulled sleighs. and even that might not have been fully practical.
but i'm not the creator, maybe Ryuujin has been toying with the idea since last i asked him and he has a fitting answer and a new little tag to the Avali lore regarding domestication and mounts as well as a few new additions to the flora and fauna to the wiki. (because it really needs it. Avalon might be harsh but there's more biodiversity in the valley of death than on that iceball)

(12-12-2015, 10:41 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote:

(12-04-2015, 01:53 AM)YDH Wrote: So here's a question. Do avali have mounts? Do they domesticate animals at all, or rely solely on hunting for their meat?

I'm imagining an avali mounted atop a giant chocobo-like creature.

Addendum: Given that the Avali's primary sense is hearing, and that their ears basically shut down when exposed to loud noises to avoid damage, would a device that emits a continuous loud tone essentially render them "blind" until someone switches it off? Or am I misunderstanding the effect of "relaxing the inner ear?"

I can see this being used against them in infantry combat by races with a narrower hearing range... human or apex soldiers running a noise generator that is deafening/blinding to Avali but outside their own frequency range. I assume the solution for this would be for Avali infantry to have enclosed helmets with additional sensors that can compensate and shut out the interference.

as for your first question, i've already asked that and Ryuu pretty much just said "not part of the Avali thought exercise; unimportant" though i agree, it'd be neat to see Avali mounted on some form of creature.
though from what i know, domesticating creatures (while they are not obsolete due to better tech) is rather difficult. Europe and such had a handful of easily domesticated creatures, which early on gave them a boost. but now that we have cars, we rarely see horses moving our stuff around.
that and given the world of Avalon is a pretty harsh place compared to something like central Germany, i'd doubt there'd be a whole lot of easily domesticated wildlife suitable for riding or large-scale transport.
and given Avali were nomads who preferred to travel light, i'd guess they didn't have much access to much more than hand-pulled sleighs. and even that might not have been fully practical.
but i'm not the creator, maybe Ryuujin has been toying with the idea since last i asked him and he has a fitting answer and a new little tag to the Avali lore regarding domestication and mounts as well as a few new additions to the flora and fauna to the wiki. (because it really needs it. Avalon might be harsh but there's more biodiversity in the valley of death than on that iceball)

(12-27-2015, 09:36 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: Ryuu, after my brother told me a very interesting (and incredibly complex and hilarious) story, it got me thinking about design children. I.E. children designed by their parent, in the current day and age this is not a fully perfect process and not commonly used, but Avali are a far more advanced race and they could possibly have perfected the craft of designing children, tailoring them before they are even conceived to be exactly how the parents want them.
for humans this raises ethical questions, but what about Avali? are they cool the parents customizing the height, feather color, health and fitness of the child or is this seen as taboo in some way due to their culture/evolution?
i'm assuming there are some that are going to be cool with it and some that aren't, like in your datalog's vegetarian/meat eater example, but i feel this is a bit more of an interesting subject that raises a bit harder of an ethical question than meat or not.

otherwise, what are you guys thoughts on it? do you think that if humans had the ability right now should couples be allowed to make a child the same you would make a sim only more advanced? (detailing facial structure, hair/eye/skin color, body build, hormone production and impact, hair growth etc.) and do you think Avali would use it?