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RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:29 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:Then what are YOU talking about because apparently all of our attempts to reply have gone off topic.(07-13-2015, 01:21 AM)Rukii Wrote: Because re-usability of old hardware in businesses, then?You are still talking about backwards compatibility. Backwards compatibility is fine. I've been connecting my monitors with vga adapters for a while now. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Jim_Clonk - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:31 AM)Surge Wrote:The fact that we have a cable that carries both analogue and digital signals, but our monitors can only use either analogue or digital. So why send both signals to begin with, and not just one?(07-13-2015, 01:29 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: You are still talking about backwards compatibility. Backwards compatibility is fine. I've been connecting my monitors with vga adapters for a while now.Then what are YOU talking about because apparently all of our attempts to reply have gone off topic. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Ehksidian - 07-13-2015 why do ruu's posts always break the forums RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:34 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:Maybe somebody thought there would be an advantage to carrying both, but after it hit the market one never materialized.(07-13-2015, 01:31 AM)Surge Wrote: Then what are YOU talking about because apparently all of our attempts to reply have gone off topic.The fact that we have a cable that carries both analogue and digital signals, but our monitors can only use either analogue or digital. So why send both signals to begin with, and not just one? RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Rukii - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:29 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: You are still talking about backwards compatibility. Backwards compatibility is fine. I've been connecting my monitors with vga adapters for a while now.No no no- Backwards compatibility is what -I is for.... so..? You aren't gonna have use for it, unless you explicitly need analogue alongside digital? It's just for lessening cord clutter, in that case. owo; It's silly, yes. Because it needs adapters to go vga, and adapters to go -D. The one application which is fully defendable would be dual monitors ow o Why you'd want anything to do with analogue baffles me at this point though. = w = "It's for specific things, not breaking pins shoving it in the wrong hole" RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Jim_Clonk - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:36 AM)Surge Wrote:Well, that was half the problem. The second half is: Why is it not possible to connect the cable that carries both, to the port that carries only digital? Concidering that the analogue signal wouldn't be used anyway.(07-13-2015, 01:34 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: The fact that we have a cable that carries both analogue and digital signals, but our monitors can only use either analogue or digital. So why send both signals to begin with, and not just one?Maybe somebody thought there would be an advantage to carrying both, but after it hit the market one never materialized. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Rukii - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:42 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:(07-13-2015, 01:36 AM)Surge Wrote: Maybe somebody thought there would be an advantage to carrying both, but after it hit the market one never materialized.Well, that was half the problem. The second half is: Why is it not possible to connect the cable that carries both, to the port that carries only digital? Concidering that the analogue signal wouldn't be used anyway. "Why is it not possible" Because it has too many pins. owo Bought a monitor with DVI-D? Why the fluff did you get an -I cable? Get an adapter. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:42 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:Probably because the cord will try and send the analogue anyways, which will ruin the digital.(07-13-2015, 01:36 AM)Surge Wrote: Maybe somebody thought there would be an advantage to carrying both, but after it hit the market one never materialized.Well, that was half the problem. The second half is: Why is it not possible to connect the cable that carries both, to the port that carries only digital? Concidering that the analogue signal wouldn't be used anyway. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Jim_Clonk - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:43 AM)Rukii Wrote:The extra pins could simply go into inlets that don't connect to anything.(07-13-2015, 01:42 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: Well, that was half the problem. The second half is: Why is it not possible to connect the cable that carries both, to the port that carries only digital? Concidering that the analogue signal wouldn't be used anyway. Also, this isn't a practical problem I'm having. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Rukii - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:43 AM)Surge Wrote:(07-13-2015, 01:42 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: Well, that was half the problem. The second half is: Why is it not possible to connect the cable that carries both, to the port that carries only digital? Concidering that the analogue signal wouldn't be used anyway.Probably because the cord will try and send the analogue anyways, which will ruin the digital. That makes so little sense it's quite frankly disturbing. It's different wires inside the cable, that's why there are different pins - it's different signals - they have no interaction in between them. because they're different signals. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:46 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:No you can't do that. One you'd be creating a whole new type of socket, two the DVI-I can't just turn off the unused pins, it's a cable that transmits signals in bulk, it doesn't have a microprocessor to control what goes where and how.(07-13-2015, 01:43 AM)Rukii Wrote: "Why is it not possible"The extra pins could simply go into inlets that don't connect to anything. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Rukii - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:46 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:(07-13-2015, 01:43 AM)Rukii Wrote: "Why is it not possible"The extra pins could simply go into inlets that don't connect to anything. Then it's the dvi-D port which shouldn't exist, no? Since the standard of having -I everywhere would allow people that need it to get splitters or adapters = w 0 RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:47 AM)Rukii Wrote:The signals all have to come together and be read somewhere, I don't see why it's stupid to think that introducing a signal that the system can't read would interfere with it's ability to read the signals it can.(07-13-2015, 01:43 AM)Surge Wrote: Probably because the cord will try and send the analogue anyways, which will ruin the digital. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Jim_Clonk - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:48 AM)Surge Wrote:Indeed, and if the cable isn't connected to anything, it simply won't transmit anything at all. Which is pretty much what we want, as we can't use the extra signal anyway.(07-13-2015, 01:46 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: The extra pins could simply go into inlets that don't connect to anything.No you can't do that. One you'd be creating a whole new type of socket, two the DVI-I can't just turn off the unused pins, it's a cable that transmits signals in bulk, it doesn't have a microprocessor to control what goes where and how. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Rukii - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:48 AM)Surge Wrote:(07-13-2015, 01:46 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: The extra pins could simply go into inlets that don't connect to anything.No you can't do that. One you'd be creating a whole new type of socket, two the DVI-I can't just turn off the unused pins, it's a cable that transmits signals in bulk, it doesn't have a microprocessor to control what goes where and how. owo;;; owo;;;;;; owo;;;;;;; When you switch the channel, does it stop all the data of channels not being watched? You're -just- not listening to the analogue when the digital is in effect. having blind ports would just make it look like a normal -D to the screen. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:51 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:That's assuming those extra pins are only for the analogue, which I have no way of knowing.(07-13-2015, 01:48 AM)Surge Wrote: No you can't do that. One you'd be creating a whole new type of socket, two the DVI-I can't just turn off the unused pins, it's a cable that transmits signals in bulk, it doesn't have a microprocessor to control what goes where and how.Indeed, and if the cable isn't connected to anything, it simply won't transmit anything at all. Which is pretty much what we want, as we can't use the extra signal anyway. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Jim_Clonk - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:52 AM)Rukii Wrote:That's just what I'm saying. If you do it like this, DVI-I cables could work for both DVI-I and DVI-D ports.(07-13-2015, 01:48 AM)Surge Wrote: No you can't do that. One you'd be creating a whole new type of socket, two the DVI-I can't just turn off the unused pins, it's a cable that transmits signals in bulk, it doesn't have a microprocessor to control what goes where and how. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Surge - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:52 AM)Rukii Wrote:Cable only has one pin though, it would have to interfere with itself. On topic though I wasn't aware that the socket was "smart" enough to do that.(07-13-2015, 01:48 AM)Surge Wrote: No you can't do that. One you'd be creating a whole new type of socket, two the DVI-I can't just turn off the unused pins, it's a cable that transmits signals in bulk, it doesn't have a microprocessor to control what goes where and how. RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - kawaiiChiimera - 07-13-2015 neerrds also, downloading WoT RE: Avali Nexus Forums 2: Back with a vengeance - Jim_Clonk - 07-13-2015 (07-13-2015, 01:56 AM)Surge Wrote:I'm pretty sure the socket isn't "smart", that's just how electricity works.(07-13-2015, 01:52 AM)Rukii Wrote: owo;;;Cable only has one pin though, it would have to interfere with itself. On topic though I wasn't aware that the socket was "smart" enough to do that. |