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RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Corosar - 09-25-2015

(09-25-2015, 05:34 AM)SilverOtter Wrote:
(09-25-2015, 04:19 AM)Corosar Wrote: wait a minute.... does that include the removal of neural jacks? or will they work differently..

They still work, it's just that mind-to-machine is limited by the number of unique nerves you have. As a result, neural jacks no longer support transformation AR.

Most jacks have extensions to optical nerves, if you're wondering. Slightly invasive, totally works.

This also means mechs that use jacks have to be humanoid instead of something sensible.

exactly how i thought of neural jacks from the get-go.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Jim_Clonk - 09-27-2015

Just to get some conversation going again, how about we talk about ship systems? If that even is something we need to discuss.


Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - kawaiiChiimera - 09-28-2015

I'd join but I'm not very consistent. Plus, work and school are in the way... Confused


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - SilverOtter - 09-29-2015

(09-27-2015, 07:47 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: Just to get some conversation going again, how about we talk about ship systems? If that even is something we need to discuss.

Due to changes in the history, I am now contemplating expanding the types of FTL travel used throughout the galaxy.

The humans would use the same FTL as before, and I have a idea being tossed around for the Novakids to create artificial wormholes and the tech required to keep them stable, but I'm stumped about unique methods of travel for everyone else.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Umbra - 09-29-2015

(09-29-2015, 08:20 PM)SilverOtter Wrote:
(09-27-2015, 07:47 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: Just to get some conversation going again, how about we talk about ship systems? If that even is something we need to discuss.

Due to changes in the history, I am now contemplating expanding the types of FTL travel used throughout the galaxy.

The humans would use the same FTL as before, and I have a idea being tossed around for the Novakids to create artificial wormholes and the tech required to keep them stable, but I'm stumped about unique methods of travel for everyone else.

Maybe just a ridiculously fast engine or something?
I actually had a dream that involved some of the SRS RP characters (Galaxion and Sirius, more precisely- no idea why) and there was some concept of energy that allowed super fast motion... Maybe there could be some sort of implementation of said energy?


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - SilverOtter - 09-30-2015

(09-29-2015, 10:03 PM)Umbra Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 08:20 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: Due to changes in the history, I am now contemplating expanding the types of FTL travel used throughout the galaxy.

The humans would use the same FTL as before, and I have a idea being tossed around for the Novakids to create artificial wormholes and the tech required to keep them stable, but I'm stumped about unique methods of travel for everyone else.

Maybe just a ridiculously fast engine or something?
I actually had a dream that involved some of the SRS RP characters (Galaxion and Sirius, more precisely- no idea why) and there was some concept of energy that allowed super fast motion... Maybe there could be some sort of implementation of said energy?

That really only works if you can prevent inertia from grinding your bones against the back wall of your ship from the hilarious speeds. Which could be solved in a complicated manner, and would technically make human FTL obsolete (but doesn't because EFFORT).

...And that one goes to the Hylotl.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Umbra - 09-30-2015

(09-30-2015, 02:01 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: That really only works if you can prevent inertia from grinding your bones against the back wall of your ship from the hilarious speeds. Which could be solved in a complicated manner, and would technically make human FTL obsolete (but doesn't because EFFORT).

...And that one goes to the Hylotl.

Heh.
If you think about it, though, the laws of physics would still apply in a ship, right? Therefore the people inside would remain unaffected.
Kind of like how everybody isn't piled up in the back of a moving train.
Even then, you could just design it so that the passengers have to be strapped in facing the front of the ship during the hyperjump.

Funnily enough, in said dream, I think it was used to increase bodily movement, allowing things like those badass ninja cut-dashes.
(not that I'm going to ask you to implement that- it'd be OP as hell)


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Jim_Clonk - 09-30-2015

(09-29-2015, 10:03 PM)Umbra Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 08:20 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: Due to changes in the history, I am now contemplating expanding the types of FTL travel used throughout the galaxy.

The humans would use the same FTL as before, and I have a idea being tossed around for the Novakids to create artificial wormholes and the tech required to keep them stable, but I'm stumped about unique methods of travel for everyone else.

Maybe just a ridiculously fast engine or something?
I actually had a dream that involved some of the SRS RP characters (Galaxion and Sirius, more precisely- no idea why) and there was some concept of energy that allowed super fast motion... Maybe there could be some sort of implementation of said energy?
That wouldn't be possible with the current laws of physics.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Umbra - 09-30-2015

(09-30-2015, 03:19 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 10:03 PM)Umbra Wrote: Maybe just a ridiculously fast engine or something?
I actually had a dream that involved some of the SRS RP characters (Galaxion and Sirius, more precisely- no idea why) and there was some concept of energy that allowed super fast motion... Maybe there could be some sort of implementation of said energy?
That wouldn't be possible with the current laws of physics.

But
This is the future in some sort of alternate universe.
Our physics don't apply.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Jim_Clonk - 09-30-2015

(09-30-2015, 06:58 PM)Umbra Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 03:19 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: That wouldn't be possible with the current laws of physics.

But
This is the future in some sort of alternate universe.
Our physics don't apply.
Most of our physics should apply...
There are other ways though.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - SilverOtter - 09-30-2015

(09-30-2015, 07:57 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 06:58 PM)Umbra Wrote: But
This is the future in some sort of alternate universe.
Our physics don't apply.
Most of our physics should apply...
There are other ways though.

Correct.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Shaadaris - 09-30-2015

Here are a few questions:
-If a person focused on psionic telepathics as their sole form of communication for many years, how good would they get at it? Could they get good enough that it's almost like speaking normally is to the averge person?

-HOW THE HELL DO NOVAKIDS EVEN WORK? Seriously, this needs to be addressed. Are they the same nonsense as in Starbound's universe? (Superheated plasma/fusion/whatever clouds bound by some sort of forcefield somehow generated by the brand and oh yeah they can somehow locomote and think) or is there a more... sensible explaination for them? Also how do they communicate? Are they all able to do telepathy pretty well or do they somehow speak normally with... vocal cord shaped something?

-(This may have been addressed already but I don't recall and the search in this forum is awkward at times) How do translator devices work and do they exist, or is there a general-language? If there's a general galactic language or whatever, do Avali have trouble pronouncing the more guttural sounds like they do in lore if I recall correctly, or can they speak fine?


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Corosar - 10-01-2015

(09-29-2015, 08:20 PM)SilverOtter Wrote:
(09-27-2015, 07:47 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: Just to get some conversation going again, how about we talk about ship systems? If that even is something we need to discuss.

Due to changes in the history, I am now contemplating expanding the types of FTL travel used throughout the galaxy.

The humans would use the same FTL as before, and I have a idea being tossed around for the Novakids to create artificial wormholes and the tech required to keep them stable, but I'm stumped about unique methods of travel for everyone else.

What about something similar to the FTL drives used in Freespace or Halo... aka my personal favorite method of FTL. The Subspace Jumpdrive (or for halo Slipspace). also there are some differences but they do mostly similar things... from here on i will mention the Freespace drives as Intersystem jump drives and intrasystem jump drives and the halo version is gonna be named the slipspace drive or Shaw-Fujikawa drive. (the human version of the slipspace drive during the original trilogy of halo)

the Freespace jump drive relies on either naturally occuring Jump nodes between Starsystems to be intersystem however as long as there is a gravitational center, (Aka A star.) The drive works for near instantaneous jumps in the same system. Inter-system jump drives though are power consuming and have to be placed on large ships but the intra-system drives are able to be build compact enough to be housed on one man fighters but don't have the power to move through jump nodes. Subspace drives that jump intersystem are short and quick (2-3 hour jumps) but the reliance on jump nodes are a hinderance and can set them up for ambush. Slipspace drives however seem to need to build up energy but have no reliance on jump nodes, the trip takes time however (2-4 Weeks) and are nowhere as precise as Subspace jumps which are pinpoint accurate with the right co-ordinates. Slipspace drives (especially the shaw-fujikawa drive) have a margin for error of hundreds of thousands of kilometers even with proper co-ordinates.

its an interesting idea for me ... and i thought it could be cool to work with.

a "jump node" is a subspace tunnel between two points in space that can not change direction and have no major effect on normal physics as the subspace drive opens these tunnels.. it relies on alot of power and the intersystem drives also double for intra-system drives. however a ship takes time to rebuild energy to perform another jump after leaving subspace which means if there is a blockade at the end of the jump. they have to contend with their opponents while the drive recharges which can take up to 15 minutes between leaving subspace and being ready to reenter subspace.

Subspace drives are however highly reliable and tend to have no issues as they create a subspace hole in front of the ship which the ship itself passes into. The drive then closes the hole behind the ship after its passed through completely. Slipspace drives, however are exceptionally finicky and if not mounted right in a ship have the ability to tear it apart entirely becoming similar to a bomb as the slipspace drive phases a ship entirely into slipspace by creating a bubble around what it is attached to. This property is actually depicted and shown.

Slipspace drives are caustic to atmosphere and can cause intense damage to the local area if used in it. Subspace drives however are not confirmed for this and could be considered either similar or not.

Just throwing up an idea for you to consider giving all the info i can.
(09-30-2015, 02:01 AM)SilverOtter Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 10:03 PM)Umbra Wrote: Maybe just a ridiculously fast engine or something?
I actually had a dream that involved some of the SRS RP characters (Galaxion and Sirius, more precisely- no idea why) and there was some concept of energy that allowed super fast motion... Maybe there could be some sort of implementation of said energy?

That really only works if you can prevent inertia from grinding your bones against the back wall of your ship from the hilarious speeds. Which could be solved in a complicated manner, and would technically make human FTL obsolete (but doesn't because EFFORT).

...And that one goes to the Hylotl.

what about inertia dampeners?


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - SilverOtter - 10-01-2015

(09-30-2015, 10:23 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: Here are a few questions:
-If a person focused on psionic telepathics as their sole form of communication for many years, how good would they get at it? Could they get good enough that it's almost like speaking normally is to the averge person?

-HOW THE HELL DO NOVAKIDS EVEN WORK? Seriously, this needs to be addressed. Are they the same nonsense as in Starbound's universe? (Superheated plasma/fusion/whatever clouds bound by some sort of forcefield somehow generated by the brand and oh yeah they can somehow locomote and think) or is there a more... sensible explaination for them? Also how do they communicate? Are they all able to do telepathy pretty well or do they somehow speak normally with... vocal cord shaped something?

-(This may have been addressed already but I don't recall and the search in this forum is awkward at times) How do translator devices work and do they exist, or is there a general-language? If there's a general galactic language or whatever, do Avali have trouble pronouncing the more guttural sounds like they do in lore if I recall correctly, or can they speak fine?

-Psychics have a tendency to use their skills as second nature, especially due to their long training time, and the natural connection to their abilities.. So, yes.

-I've been thinking about how I could completely change up their physiology but keep their visual appearance (besides the whole "I glow in the dark!" thing). I'll probably get that out soon. Probably.

-No, I've never addressed it before. But I did think of the increased depth from having a common language, so that characters could also use their native languages whenever it's important. And for the most part, since languages are based around what sounds a species can produce, all other species have, at the very least, some trouble pronouncing non-native languages, but the Common language would try to be distinct in it's sounds so that species who are impaired in a sound would still be capable of some pronouncement without confusion with other sounds.

Sorry about the long wait times, I've been playing the original Mass Effect.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Shaadaris - 10-01-2015

(10-01-2015, 05:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 10:23 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: Here are a few questions:
-If a person focused on psionic telepathics as their sole form of communication for many years, how good would they get at it? Could they get good enough that it's almost like speaking normally is to the averge person?

-HOW THE HELL DO NOVAKIDS EVEN WORK? Seriously, this needs to be addressed. Are they the same nonsense as in Starbound's universe? (Superheated plasma/fusion/whatever clouds bound by some sort of forcefield somehow generated by the brand and oh yeah they can somehow locomote and think) or is there a more... sensible explaination for them? Also how do they communicate? Are they all able to do telepathy pretty well or do they somehow speak normally with... vocal cord shaped something?

-(This may have been addressed already but I don't recall and the search in this forum is awkward at times) How do translator devices work and do they exist, or is there a general-language? If there's a general galactic language or whatever, do Avali have trouble pronouncing the more guttural sounds like they do in lore if I recall correctly, or can they speak fine?

-Psychics have a tendency to use their skills as second nature, especially due to their long training time, and the natural connection to their abilities.. So, yes.

-I've been thinking about how I could completely change up their physiology but keep their visual appearance (besides the whole "I glow in the dark!" thing). I'll probably get that out soon. Probably.

-No, I've never addressed it before. But I did think of the increased depth from having a common language, so that characters could also use their native languages whenever it's important. And for the most part, since languages are based around what sounds a species can produce, all other species have, at the very least, some trouble pronouncing non-native languages, but the Common language would try to be distinct in it's sounds so that species who are impaired in a sound would still be capable of some pronouncement without confusion with other sounds.

Sorry about the long wait times, I've been playing the original Mass Effect.

-Good to know.
-I... Am not sure how you'll have them not glow. At that point you might as well just make them a different species altogether. (And let's face it, "Novakid" is a bizzare species name.) That said, I'm interested in what you'll come up with!
-ⱱʄtˑɭʋɝˑɶɺˑɞˑɣɖʎ.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Jim_Clonk - 10-01-2015

We are still talking about FTL systems?
Well, here are the methods that I know of:

- Warp(Alcubierre) Drive
Possibly the most realistic of FTL drive system. The Warp drive contracts space in front of the ship, and expands space behind the ship, causing it to shift forwards.

- Wormhole Drive
Also hypothetically possible. The Wormhole Drive functions by creating an artificial wormhole for the ship to pass through.
(I believe this is the one silver mentioned earlier)

- Hyperspace Drive
This drive system opens a portal to "Hyperspace", a dimension where different laws of physics apply. This is the only FTL system in which the ship physically accelerates.

- Quantum Fold
This method causes quantum particles at the target destination to be artificially quantum entangled with the particles of the ship. The ship then sends out an impulse to "tell" the quantum particles that the ship is actually at the destination and not at it's current location.
The fold itself is instantaneous but the particles take some time to be entangled.

- Jump Gates
Simmilar to the Wormhole Drive. Instead of having a ship open a wormhole when needed, the Jump Gate keeps a two-way wormhole to a connected gate open.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Umbra - 10-01-2015

(10-01-2015, 11:49 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: - Quantum Fold
This method causes quantum particles at the target destination to be artificially quantum entangled with the particles of the ship. The ship then sends out an impulse to "tell" the quantum particles that the ship is actually at the destination and not at it's current location.
The fold itself is instantaneous but the particles take some time to be entangled.

This sounds exactly like the kind of FTL in FTL.
...The game FTL.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Jim_Clonk - 10-01-2015

(10-01-2015, 02:09 PM)Umbra Wrote:
(10-01-2015, 11:49 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: - Quantum Fold
This method causes quantum particles at the target destination to be artificially quantum entangled with the particles of the ship. The ship then sends out an impulse to "tell" the quantum particles that the ship is actually at the destination and not at it's current location.
The fold itself is instantaneous but the particles take some time to be entangled.

This sounds exactly like the kind of FTL in FTL.
...The game FTL.
Could be...
I know it's not what's used in Homeworld. The Homeworld hyperdrive is not instantaneous.


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - SilverOtter - 10-01-2015

Update: in another example of blatant theft, the novakids are now the Anodynes. In fact, they now look like the original Anodynes, which strangely fits with some of the changes I was doing (they have mineral crusts, and I was giving novakids BONES OF CRYSTAL). 

Don't worry, they're not made of gas. Just their blood.  Wink


RE: Nexus "Serious" RP Revival Discussion - Umbra - 10-01-2015

(10-01-2015, 05:34 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: Update: in another example of blatant theft, the novakids are now the Anodynes. In fact, they now look like the original Anodynes, which strangely fits with some of the changes I was doing (they have mineral crusts, and I was giving novakids BONES OF CRYSTAL). 

Don't worry, they're not made of gas. Just their blood.  Wink

That works. They'll still be forging geniuses, right?

Also, how expensive would metal casting with some of the stronger metals of theirs be?
wow, aren't i subtle