(08-17-2015, 09:50 PM)Joeythomas Wrote: When and where will the roleplay resume?

(08-17-2015, 09:42 PM)Umbra Wrote: So yeah.
Ghosts that are actually otherdimensional beings.

Maybe we should make it so that they can't physically interact with living creatures? Perhaps they can only be seen and talked to, not touched?

(08-18-2015, 12:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: Well it's less otherdimensional beings and more honest-to-goodness souls.

But yeah spooky stuff in a sci-fi game. 

That was already there. 

(08-18-2015, 11:02 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: While I don't know if I will join the RP or not, I could still share some of my ideas, right?
I think I have some at least somewhat interesting concepts.

(08-18-2015, 10:00 PM)L3W Wrote: So, is this RP going to take place in the past, present, or the future? I mean we should build a crazy back story where we all died, but got reincarnated or maybe we were all in cryogenic freezing pods and someone woke us up. I mean I just suggesting ideas and I understand if you don't want to do that.

(08-18-2015, 10:03 PM)Umbra Wrote:

(08-18-2015, 10:00 PM)L3W Wrote: So, is this RP going to take place in the past, present, or the future? I mean we should build a crazy back story where we all died, but got reincarnated or maybe we were all in cryogenic freezing pods and someone woke us up. I mean I just suggesting ideas and I understand if you don't want to do that.

We're really just reworking the lore and "plot" of the previous iteration.

Also, I think I might give Sirius a new last name... Only problem is that I'm terrible at coming up with names.

(08-17-2015, 05:01 AM)SilverOtter Wrote:

(08-17-2015, 04:52 AM)Marxon Wrote: I do think there should be balance to magic too, like it has a cost or physical requirement of the user. Say telekinesis burns up calories like a bitch and you either have to eat like a pig or have a good bit of extra padding to do it frequently without organ deterioration.

Other forms of "magic" should avoid spontaneous generation and easy to access pocket dimensions. Controlling electricity for example would be incredibly dangerous even to the wielder, fireball throwers would still themselves burn.

Also, i say no to allowing any form of grey goo due to how rediculously high tech, dangerous, and abusable it is. A human sized blob of the stuff would cost more money than probably exists in any one bank account.

Why the hell do some people keep on suggesting magic? I mean, if you wanted magic and technology you should have just played a game of Shadowrun.

Seriously though, I just don't feel like magic is right. It's ridiculously open ended and revolves around hand waving everything that could be thought of. I'm not saying I'm going for hard science, but full on, "fireball fireball fireball ice ice ice" isn't what I'm looking for in a space opera.

You can just get augments to shoot fire out of your palms anyways, but you're bringing the fuel too.

(08-18-2015, 10:03 PM)Umbra Wrote:

(08-18-2015, 10:00 PM)L3W Wrote: So, is this RP going to take place in the past, present, or the future? I mean we should build a crazy back story where we all died, but got reincarnated or maybe we were all in cryogenic freezing pods and someone woke us up. I mean I just suggesting ideas and I understand if you don't want to do that.

We're really just reworking the lore and "plot" of the previous iteration.

Also, I think I might give Sirius a new last name... Only problem is that I'm terrible at coming up with names.

(08-19-2015, 03:03 AM)SharpTeeth Wrote: While I do think going for a magic structure within a story such as this wouldn't fit the tone, I wouldn't necessarily call magic open ended. A huge portion of setting up a structured narrative comes from setting boundaries and allowing certain exceptions. There are entire pages on tvtropes dedicated to extraordinarily well defined/limited variants of magic. Even in science based stories, there are humongous amounts of gratuitous hand-waving, for example, if you could shoot out fire, you would have to mind thermal conductivity, the toxic mix of gasses generated by incineration, and avoiding having the user be cooked by extremely close use of a thermal weapon. A large portion of telling tales is knowing when to not to adhere to reality and instead have a little fun with what you got. Trying to pass off that reality bending as gospel, however...... that is another thing.

(08-19-2015, 03:33 AM)Umbra Wrote:

(08-19-2015, 03:03 AM)SharpTeeth Wrote: While I do think going for a magic structure within a story such as this wouldn't fit the tone, I wouldn't necessarily call magic open ended. A huge portion of setting up a structured narrative comes from setting boundaries and allowing certain exceptions. There are entire pages on tvtropes dedicated to extraordinarily well defined/limited variants of magic. Even in science based stories, there are humongous amounts of gratuitous hand-waving, for example, if you could shoot out fire, you would have to mind thermal conductivity, the toxic mix of gasses generated by incineration, and avoiding having the user be cooked by extremely close use of a thermal weapon. A large portion of telling tales is knowing when to not to adhere to reality and instead have a little fun with what you got. Trying to pass off that reality bending as gospel, however...... that is another thing.

And we can't forget this gem of an explanation!

(08-19-2015, 03:33 AM)Umbra Wrote: And we can't forget this gem of an explanation!

(08-19-2015, 03:43 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: Considering Void energy is a similarly bullshit pseudo-science I made to explain things like gaining speed from Newtonian physics being applied to light, I think we basically have magic that is not magic but is but isn't but is science but is not but is limited but basically works with anything.

(08-19-2015, 03:49 AM)SharpTeeth Wrote: That's actually kind of frightening. Keep a small part of it defined or you got yourself a roving plot hole. Yeah, it can be used for anything, but then again, it can be used for anything, including solving all your character's problems.

(08-19-2015, 04:02 AM)Umbra Wrote:

(08-19-2015, 03:43 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: Considering Void energy is a similarly bullshit pseudo-science I made to explain things like gaining speed from Newtonian physics being applied to light, I think we basically have magic that is not magic but is but isn't but is science but is not but is limited but basically works with anything.

So our own little version of Mass Effect.

Yeah, we really need to refine this... As dumb as it may seem, it's actually a really good idea to put constraints on everything so there isn't something with no constraints that can be exploited.

(08-19-2015, 03:49 AM)SharpTeeth Wrote: That's actually kind of frightening. Keep a small part of it defined or you got yourself a roving plot hole. Yeah, it can be used for anything, but then again, it can be used for anything, including solving all your character's problems.

Thankfully, nobody put two and two together and tried to do that.

(08-19-2015, 04:49 AM)SilverOtter Wrote:

(08-19-2015, 04:02 AM)Umbra Wrote: So our own little version of Mass Effect.

Yeah, we really need to refine this... As dumb as it may seem, it's actually a really good idea to put constraints on everything so there isn't something with no constraints that can be exploited.



Thankfully, nobody put two and two together and tried to do that.

Thankfully, Void Energy actually cannot do anything. By itself, the worst it can do is give you horrible medical conditions.

I'm not selling this very good, am I?

In order for it to actually do anything, you need to gather it up, and infuse it with stuff. The resulting effect depends on what you just infused it with, and it cares about pure elements, not compounds. I've barely documented it, but it has a limited amount of stuff it will actually do, because a limited amount of things actually make it do stuff.

Nickel, in the case of Hard-Light engines, is lucky. Get one big slab of nickel (Try taller than a human, and thicker than a bookcase), infuse it with void energy (which is very, very sparse and needs specialized operations and tools to gather), and run light past it, and voila! Opposite reaction from light! The engines are hilariously expensive though (but that can be said of anything involving void energy), and you need tons of them to anywhere. You can't even make one huge engine, because the speed output doesn't scale very well, leaving you with even lesss speed than if you had tons of little engines.