(01-28-2016, 06:50 PM)Umbra Wrote: I just randomly looked at the "people online" list, and... Apparently, two guests are "printing" threads.
Is that normal, or is something wrong?

(01-28-2016, 06:50 PM)Umbra Wrote: I just randomly looked at the "people online" list, and... Apparently, two guests are "printing" threads.
Is that normal, or is something wrong?

(01-28-2016, 07:06 PM)Umbra Wrote:

(01-28-2016, 06:50 PM)Umbra Wrote: I just randomly looked at the "people online" list, and... Apparently, two guests are "printing" threads.
Is that normal, or is something wrong?

I'm actually concerned.

(01-28-2016, 08:11 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:

(01-28-2016, 09:55 PM)Surge Wrote: [4:49:29 PM] Surge: so I joined a match in my M60
[4:50:00 PM] Surge: got in an argument with some top clan flunky about how AFVs are objectively inferior to MBTs and he gets all "well why am I doing damage then?"
[4:50:13 PM] Surge: I get very little done because I'm typing instead of driving
[4:50:22 PM] Surge: he tries to friend request me afterwards to rub it in
[4:50:31 PM] Surge: fuck that
[4:50:34 PM] Surge: queue up again
[4:50:39 PM] Surge: there he is again, in a chieftan
[4:51:05 PM] Surge: he overextends and dies, I'm still going, he's still going on about how I'm just a baddy who needs to defer to his eternal tanking wisdom
[4:51:17 PM] Surge: up to 2k damage dealt, still rolling
[4:51:33 PM] Surge: get in a nasty brawl with an enemy chieftan, barely come out
[4:51:50 PM] Surge: he starts flaming me in all chat because I should have roflstomped that guy what the fuck was I doing
[4:52:10 PM] Surge: enemy chieftan chimes in "oh hey, nice to see you're just a cunt everywhere"
[4:52:29 PM] Surge: everyone starts dogpiling him for being a holier than thou cunt, I'm still rolling around killing people
[4:53:03 PM] Surge: finally he starts talking about how he has a 71% win rate in his chieftan and I say "yeah you're MLG pro god, but we carried you through this match, remember that"
[4:53:42 PM] Surge: end with 3k damage
[4:54:06 PM] Surge: HE loaded because I can't MBT-70s frontally and he starts yelling "Surge isn't even that good, look at him! he uses HE!"

(01-28-2016, 10:13 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: i'm pretty sure this is surge's face when dealing with that guy
also I think that face is priceless

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I'm also not sure what HE is bad, I mean when used correctly it can be devastating especially that spot under the driver hatch on a T-72

(01-28-2016, 10:29 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote:

(01-28-2016, 10:13 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: i'm pretty sure this is surge's face when dealing with that guy
also I think that face is priceless

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I'm also not sure what HE is bad, I mean when used correctly it can be devastating especially that spot under the driver hatch on a T-72

HE isn't bad though.  It's someone complaining in game-play technically using a straw-man arguement.  Saying "You're using something that takes less skill to use to be good, you must be bad at the game."  Whereas the actual point is that you're using it intelligently.  Since tactical knowledge and awareness is a skill all on it's own.

(01-28-2016, 11:38 AM)Segolia Wrote: What's the actual code - simplifying the code to it's intended logical steps in pseudocode won't help resolve issues with the actual code.

If I had to take a random guess, since the logic seems to be giving you approximately correct values it's type fuckery, and floats are getting cast to ints or whatever in a way that the computer doesn't play nice with.

(01-28-2016, 07:03 PM)OdinYggd Wrote: But it is how math works on computers.

What you have encountered is the phenomena of Float Rounding. Basically, even decimal places to us are only rarely perfectly represented in binary. So the computer approximates as best it can.

Over time that little bit of error on EVERY SINGLE CALCULATION adds up significantly and causes weird phenomena.

In Kerbal Space Program, the phenomena would cause a ship to accelerate to speeds in excess of the speed of light when making a hairpin turn around the sun. The forces applied to the ship in such a maneuver would trigger float rounding to appear with an exponentially increasing result that would fling the ship into deep space at insane multiples of the speed of light.

Quote:We had just gotten to the bottom of a crypt, searching for an artifact of resurrection for our party mascot. Turns out it was protected by a skeleton. Our party has a habit of being punny at any given time.

DM: the skeleton sits atop a throne of skulls, and has a glowing sapphire in its left eye.

Ranger: At least he’s keeping an eye out.

DM: The skeleton grows larger by about six inches and begins giving off an aura of power.

Cleric (me): Seems he has a bone to pick with us.

DM: He grows by another six inches and his aura strengthens.

Berserker: Glad to see he has some spine.

-A flurry of puns later the skeleton has grown to about 20 ft tall-

DM: The skeleton’s head hits the ceiling. His aura is overwhelming.

Rogue: He must weigh a skele-Ton

Berserker: Just throw me a bone here, when can I smash him?

Ranger: Not much longer, we have to finish ribbing him first.

-And that’s the story of how we killed a boss by crushing it with puns-

(01-28-2016, 11:43 PM)Shaadaris Wrote:

(01-28-2016, 11:38 AM)Segolia Wrote: What's the actual code - simplifying the code to it's intended logical steps in pseudocode won't help resolve issues with the actual code.

If I had to take a random guess, since the logic seems to be giving you approximately correct values it's type fuckery, and floats are getting cast to ints or whatever in a way that the computer doesn't play nice with.

This is literally the code. The only difference is I replaced the things I was changing with generic value names, which would make no difference in practice, and cut out all the stuff that doesn't affect those values in any way at all.
I don't understand how it can be messing with the types, since I've done much more complicated things with ints, floats, etc. being thrown around like... something which gets thrown around a lot, and the equations work fine.

(01-28-2016, 07:03 PM)OdinYggd Wrote: But it is how math works on computers.

What you have encountered is the phenomena of Float Rounding. Basically, even decimal places to us are only rarely perfectly represented in binary. So the computer approximates as best it can.

Over time that little bit of error on EVERY SINGLE CALCULATION adds up significantly and causes weird phenomena.

In Kerbal Space Program, the phenomena would cause a ship to accelerate to speeds in excess of the speed of light when making a hairpin turn around the sun. The forces applied to the ship in such a maneuver would trigger float rounding to appear with an exponentially increasing result that would fling the ship into deep space at insane multiples of the speed of light.

But even the first iteration of the calculation rounds wrong, directly after defining the variables and giving them their initial values, so I don't see how it can be an error caused by the number of calculations.


I'll probably throw in a line to round it off... I think there are rounding functions in LUA? I don't really use stuff like that often, because usually when I work with simple values at a few decimals or integers it doesn't screw up and give me incorrect numbers :/
Or maybe I'll try defining the 2 as 2.0 and 100 as 100.0 thereby perhaps making them floats too assuming that it could be a type problem?
Apparently all numbers are already stored as doubles so that won't work. Rounding it is.

(01-28-2016, 11:53 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:

Quote:We had just gotten to the bottom of a crypt, searching for an artifact of resurrection for our party mascot. Turns out it was protected by a skeleton. Our party has a habit of being punny at any given time.

DM: the skeleton sits atop a throne of skulls, and has a glowing sapphire in its left eye.

Ranger: At least he’s keeping an eye out.

DM: The skeleton grows larger by about six inches and begins giving off an aura of power.

Cleric (me): Seems he has a bone to pick with us.

DM: He grows by another six inches and his aura strengthens.

Berserker: Glad to see he has some spine.

-A flurry of puns later the skeleton has grown to about 20 ft tall-

DM: The skeleton’s head hits the ceiling. His aura is overwhelming.

Rogue: He must weigh a skele-Ton

Berserker: Just throw me a bone here, when can I smash him?

Ranger: Not much longer, we have to finish ribbing him first.

-And that’s the story of how we killed a boss by crushing it with puns-

Death by puns