(10-11-2015, 04:28 AM)Surge Wrote: There is stupid, there is reckless, then there is shutting down shields and weapons to vent while hugging the broadside of a battlecruiser, all in a frigate so fragile a single volley of anti-fighter missiles can rip it in half.

(10-11-2015, 04:39 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 04:28 AM)Surge Wrote: There is stupid, there is reckless, then there is shutting down shields and weapons to vent while hugging the broadside of a battlecruiser, all in a frigate so fragile a single volley of anti-fighter missiles can rip it in half.

I have an odd that that actually worked out...
Then again, I'm not sure if you have that kind of luck.

Spoiler

Warning: Big

(10-11-2015, 08:05 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: The more I hear about Undertale, the less I want to play it.

(10-11-2015, 09:22 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 08:05 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: The more I hear about Undertale, the less I want to play it.

that's cow poop, it's really a fun game, if fact, there's a free demo on their site for you to try it, I did and it was fun.

kinda spoiler

face of complete satisfaction

(10-11-2015, 09:26 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 09:22 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: that's cow poop, it's really a fun game, if fact, there's a free demo on their site for you to try it, I did and it was fun.

I know the gameplay is good. I watched a let's play of it and it looked fun.
The problem I have with the game is that it seems to forget that it is a game sometimes.

(10-11-2015, 11:17 AM)Rukii Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 09:26 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: I know the gameplay is good. I watched a let's play of it and it looked fun.
The problem I have with the game is that it seems to forget that it is a game sometimes.

What does it pretend to be, then?

I'd say it is more than just aware of what it is, content and story doesen't hint at anything but self awareness from the development side.

(10-11-2015, 12:20 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 11:17 AM)Rukii Wrote: What does it pretend to be, then?

I'd say it is more than just aware of what it is, content and story doesen't hint at anything but self awareness from the development side.

A bit too self aware as it pretends to be reality.

(10-11-2015, 12:20 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 11:17 AM)Rukii Wrote: What does it pretend to be, then?

I'd say it is more than just aware of what it is, content and story doesen't hint at anything but self awareness from the development side.

A bit too self aware as it pretends to be reality.

(10-11-2015, 12:22 PM)Rukii Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 12:20 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: A bit too self aware as it pretends to be reality.

In what way?
I wouldn't say the fantasy setting or the artstyle particularly attempts realism.

(10-11-2015, 12:24 PM)Segolia Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 12:20 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: A bit too self aware as it pretends to be reality.

It doesn't though? It may have a lot of self-referential humour and 'meta' elements but it never really implies at any point that the agency of the characters extends beyond the context of the game (i.e impacts reality).

Or to put it another way - it never acts like the reality of the game isn't distinct from actual reality.

(10-11-2015, 12:27 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 12:22 PM)Rukii Wrote: In what way?
I wouldn't say the fantasy setting or the artstyle particularly attempts realism.

(10-11-2015, 12:24 PM)Segolia Wrote: It doesn't though? It may have a lot of self-referential humour and 'meta' elements but it never really implies at any point that the agency of the characters extends beyond the context of the game (i.e impacts reality).

Or to put it another way - it never acts like the reality of the game isn't distinct from actual reality.

What I'm talking about is the fact that this game goes through great lengths to ensure the consequences of your actions are permanent. Such a thing is something for reality, not a video game. Especially as people tend to use games to get away from reality for a while.

(10-11-2015, 12:27 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 12:22 PM)Rukii Wrote: In what way?
I wouldn't say the fantasy setting or the artstyle particularly attempts realism.

(10-11-2015, 12:24 PM)Segolia Wrote: It doesn't though? It may have a lot of self-referential humour and 'meta' elements but it never really implies at any point that the agency of the characters extends beyond the context of the game (i.e impacts reality).

Or to put it another way - it never acts like the reality of the game isn't distinct from actual reality.

What I'm talking about is the fact that this game goes through great lengths to ensure the consequences of your actions are permanent. Such a thing is something for reality, not a video game. Especially as people tend to use games to get away from reality for a while.

(10-11-2015, 12:30 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 12:27 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: What I'm talking about is the fact that this game goes through great lengths to ensure the consequences of your actions are permanent. Such a thing is something for reality, not a video game. Especially as people tend to use games to get away from reality for a while.

yeah...that happens if you do the genocide run, it's permanent even with a full data cleanse(because it's linked to your steam cloud)

(10-11-2015, 12:34 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote:

(10-11-2015, 12:30 PM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: yeah...that happens if you do the genocide run, it's permanent even with a full data cleanse(because it's linked to your steam cloud)

No need to strike that through, I know what's going on...
My point is that, if I want to completely reset my game, I should be allowed to do so as it is just a game, not reality.

Although, I must say that the method that was used is rather genius.