05-23-2015, 11:25 PM
(05-23-2015, 11:00 PM)Joeythomas Wrote:(05-23-2015, 10:52 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: *Gonzo doesn't seem to notice, he's busy pouring different shards and gems into a large sack*What a set up. It even puts my botania and mana pool to shame.
*his hut is a mess, there is a table to one side, covered in paper, in one corner is a small ink phial with one of his large wing feathers in. in the middle is what appers to be a cauldron, but with some large metal/wood construct with tubes and pipes going out of it and into a series of empty and half empty jars, all labeled with some image or symbol. one wall is just a large book shelf, with nothing but jars, jars, jars, jars and jars, all filled with all sorts of colorful liquids. there are a few chests and trunks around, some are open showing all sorts of things, gem-fitted belts, bangles and rings, raw ores, processed metals of many different kinds. you hear a agitated and drawn out sigh coming from a jar with a brain in formalin, it brain is floating in the greenish liquid, it's two red eyes stare stiffly at you as it lets out another agitated sigh. the room is dusty and reeks of all sorts of things, making it hard to breath. there are other small bits and bobs, odd ends and other tat laying around, a hexagonal lens with a golden gem-fitted rim, multiple books, paper with notes and diagrams EVERYWHERE, tools, half-finished golems, wands, staves, a normal-looking oven. all there seems of leasuire is a slightly comfy-looking chair with a pile of paper and a half-way empty jar of light grey/blue liquid*
*begins to walk towards gonzo*
*turns around, raising his right arm towards Showtime*
what the hell are you doing here? get out, NOW!
(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Umbra Wrote:(05-23-2015, 10:56 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: // so far i have a better explain magic system that makes more sense than any of the "science" that has been used, or even the FLOATING FUCKING CITY?! do you have any idea what kind of power that would need? the kind of "science" you want to use is just as bad as lazy-story-writing magic. while i do agree that some of the magic we have here is pretty *hand-wave, solve/cause problems* some of it has an ACTUAL system. Penguins i think is pretty hand-wave-y but Umbra still has some things not yet explained.
// please try not to be such a hypocrite.
// It's actually a bit complicated... It's still technically technology, though- it just originates from a shady source. I could probably PM the details if you're that interested, since I don't really want to clog up the page with an explanation :I
// i'd like to read it, and i think others would be too. put it in a spoiler.
(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Marxon Wrote:(05-23-2015, 10:56 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: // so far i have a better explain magic system that makes more sense than any of the "science" that has been used, or even the FLOATING FUCKING CITY?! do you have any idea what kind of power that would need? the kind of "science" you want to use is just as bad as lazy-story-writing magic. while i do agree that some of the magic we have here is pretty *hand-wave, solve/cause problems* some of it has an ACTUAL system. Penguins i think is pretty hand-wave-y but Umbra still has some things not yet explained.
// please try not to be such a hypocrite.
//You're cool, you have an explanation for it...
//Im talking about people who summon beings out of fuck nothing and casting bolts of pure energy from their bodies...
// i accept occasional magic but not the world running on it.
// and give me time to explain things before calling me a hypocrite you ass
// i think i already mentioned this to you, sorry if i did, Gonzo's "Magic" is based on Thaumcraft's mechanics and Lore, we've already had a few visits from the Crimson Cult (no one is worried we haven't seen them in a while? hehe...)
// to quickly explain Thaumcraft's mechanics is a bit hard, as there is quite a lot to explain. but to somewhat quickly explain it:
// everything in the world is composed of six primary aspects (the Primal Aspects), Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Order and Entropy. out of these aspects can be made compound aspects, such as the Life aspect. (from water and earth, that's sort of what life is/came from when you think about it). you can then combine compound aspects to get more compound aspects.
// there is more to mention, but that is the basics and the bad.
// and what i meant by calling you a hypocrite is that i have seen many, many cases of people using pretty much magic, calling it science. and so far, large cities floating out of the ground, one-handed pistols shooting 1 million volts of lightning with out need charge time, seems like magic to me. i'm sure there is more to it if you got an option to explain it, but so far, every chance Gonzo has had to explain something, he has taken it. if the problem is that you haven't gotten to explaining it, then that can (not saying it is) be your fault for not taking the initiative and doing the explaining.
// and lastly, i'm 100% in favor of dismissing people who use poorly/unexplained magic. Magic, just like science, needs a good explanation.