08-25-2015, 03:42 AM
(08-25-2015, 03:18 AM)SharpTeeth Wrote:(08-24-2015, 06:30 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: It's okay to be critical, but I agree with literally everyone else: you're going too far considering what the topic is. Ryuu doesn't take the lore as "100% all must follow this canon as it is fact!", it's more "I'm having fun making a thing that seems sort of scientifically feasable but I'm not going to get doctorates in biology and chemistry to get everything perfect".
You're arguing "an apple must be red because chemistry and biology stuff" to people who are thinking "it would be cool if an apple was reddish-orange, but we get that it should still be kind of red." Ohgodthatwasaterribleanalogy.
Hmm, you seem to be unaware of what I am getting at. To reuse your metaphor, let me illustrate two examples.
The blue crystalline tree grew orange apples that tasted of an unusual blend of sweetness. (still good! no reason to be bothered by the impossible life)
The arctic blue organic structure that closely parallels a tree, having branches with razor sharp leaves that slice herbivores deeply and shakes occasionally grew various pustules with thin skins and with juice suspended within, yet the sacs having somehow retained a spherical shape with skins that had color that varied between rust and tangerine on the orange spectrum having a mix of citric acid and ethylene glycol in the flavor department, truly making it unique and special in all of the various species that closely relate to plants. (what is even going on here? Is all that detail necessary especially when it contradicts itself?)
The excess detail is what is bogging down the concept, not an extreme adherence to science. In fact, I advise the exact opposite in most cases, unless you are willing to work out the details specifically. The Avali's contradictions are what shape a large portion of my rant.
You're focusing too much on the bad analogy.
My point was that the lore isn't all 100% set in stone, so you have no reason to be so extremely critical about it.
To quote Ryuu: "You could almost call it 'early access' an incomplete project that suddenly snowballed in popularity"
Keyword: Incomplete.
Things are subject to change, and we aren't all so obsessed about the science that we adhere to it completely, so don't go saying he's driven himself into a rut with the lore, etc, when he's clearly stated that said lore isn't even making an attempt to keep him in the rut, for another bad analogy. It doesn't matter that it's a tangled mess or contradictory because it's in alpha stages in a sense.
Things can be cut, altered, or completely changed at any time. The details are just enough to allow people to come up with an accurate idea of the "Alphali" (Alpha Avali). A concept, blueprints, etc. By no means is it meant to be a full picture or a coherent puzzle. It's more like "this is what it could be, but it also could be different." Heck, Ryuu was intending to redo the lore pretty much from scratch at one point if I recall correctly, but never got around to it because he stopped making the mod in Starbound.
If you actually talked to the community about it instead of just coming by to defend your arguments and post more arguments, you'd realize that none of this is bogging anyone down. It is not as big of a problem as you make it out to be. Heck, we were all perfectly fine before you started jumping in and pointing out things you find to be problematic.