02-09-2016, 07:28 AM
>"Even thinking robots couldn't be people even if they can form opinions, think, and have emotion! They're not biological and they're just programs!"
Bro, our brains are literally physical programs.
>"They're made of metal and electricity. They aren't living, breathing organisms."
Hey Einstein, our cells are made of carbon and that doesn't make us a pencil, so why should being made of iron make you any less?
>"Yeah but they aren't sentient!"
If they can think, they're sentient. Doesn't matter what they use to think - if they learn, understand, and feel, they're alive.
>"Well they aren't sapient!"
Oh my god you people are idiots. They can form opinions, think for themself, and are aware of themself. That is sapience. They could be sapient.
>"But they can't reproduce!"
That has literally nothing to do with the topic at hand. If I remove your genetalia (which I am getting very tempted to do) you don't stop being alive, though you might want to.
People who honestly think like that piss me off.
When we end up making a thinking, feeling AI it'll be like the whole race issue all over again.
CONTEXT: Watched a video discussing Fallout 4 and specifically if Synths can be considered sentient, concious, and alive. I made the mistake of looking through the comments, which as is the standard with youtube, were mostly by mentally-degraded psychopaths and trolls...
Hm... Might try it out one day when I'm bored.
Bro, our brains are literally physical programs.
>"They're made of metal and electricity. They aren't living, breathing organisms."
Hey Einstein, our cells are made of carbon and that doesn't make us a pencil, so why should being made of iron make you any less?
>"Yeah but they aren't sentient!"
If they can think, they're sentient. Doesn't matter what they use to think - if they learn, understand, and feel, they're alive.
>"Well they aren't sapient!"
Oh my god you people are idiots. They can form opinions, think for themself, and are aware of themself. That is sapience. They could be sapient.
>"But they can't reproduce!"
That has literally nothing to do with the topic at hand. If I remove your genetalia (which I am getting very tempted to do) you don't stop being alive, though you might want to.
People who honestly think like that piss me off.
When we end up making a thinking, feeling AI it'll be like the whole race issue all over again.
CONTEXT: Watched a video discussing Fallout 4 and specifically if Synths can be considered sentient, concious, and alive. I made the mistake of looking through the comments, which as is the standard with youtube, were mostly by mentally-degraded psychopaths and trolls...
(02-09-2016, 06:57 AM)Surge Wrote:(02-09-2016, 06:53 AM)Shaadaris Wrote: Every time I see a video about Guns of Icarus Online I become more interested in it.GoI has bots, you can crew a ship all by yourself and other players will generally have no idea what is going on on your ship, or you could also play by yourself in case you don't want people joining onto your ship.
Steampunk zepplein battles. Too much awesome in one sentence.
However, it's a MOBA (I think that's the right term to use here?) and I don't want to get yelled at by a bunch of elder players because I'm new and don't quite know what I'm doing. That and by nature I just plain don't like MOBAs because the gameplay is by nature too serious and overcompetetive and people have no idea how to just have fun.
I used to play it with friends, was a good time for the most part, but the bare minimum skeleton crew always nagged at me.
Hm... Might try it out one day when I'm bored.