03-18-2016, 01:40 AM
I'm okay, though I'd rather not delve into this subject too deeply.
I'm not actually certain what sorts of frozen solids Avali would encounter aside from water ice, all the gases it occurred to me to look up have freezing points that are too cold even for Avali to survive (hundreds of degrees below zero, as opposed to the condensation point of ammonia which is 33 C, which is increased due to Avalon's high pressure and Avali biology. Dry ice, for instance, would probably be too cold for them to handle safely.
Plastics and rubbers as we know them would probably be useless at the Avali temperature range. They both become brittle at such temperatures.
Of course, the question is kind of moot without farming, or maybe aquaculture. No farming means no civilization, no civilization means no advanced machines or materials, and the Avali would have remained divided, scattered stone-age tribes, and if animals and early humans are indicative of what primitive Avali were like, they'd probably be violent. So it seems that despite the horrific things the malefactors did, they also made possible everything that makes it good to be an Avali.
Lost Rinoah
(03-16-2016, 09:52 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: Saline solutions do, especially when frozen. The only issue is it increases the temperature, which makes the liquid moving and chaotic again (thus less effective). However, when things are "so cold" they don't risk melting, plus with a simple plastic of some sort, or a rubber.I know salt lowers the freezing point of water and leeches out of sea ice, but I don't know how it interacts with other things that are gaseous at our temperature range. I would assume that salt has a similar effect on other frozen solids, in that it would lower their freezing point by interfering with crystal formaton. Then again, maybe not if the liquid in question is non-polar.
I'm not actually certain what sorts of frozen solids Avali would encounter aside from water ice, all the gases it occurred to me to look up have freezing points that are too cold even for Avali to survive (hundreds of degrees below zero, as opposed to the condensation point of ammonia which is 33 C, which is increased due to Avalon's high pressure and Avali biology. Dry ice, for instance, would probably be too cold for them to handle safely.
Plastics and rubbers as we know them would probably be useless at the Avali temperature range. They both become brittle at such temperatures.
Of course, the question is kind of moot without farming, or maybe aquaculture. No farming means no civilization, no civilization means no advanced machines or materials, and the Avali would have remained divided, scattered stone-age tribes, and if animals and early humans are indicative of what primitive Avali were like, they'd probably be violent. So it seems that despite the horrific things the malefactors did, they also made possible everything that makes it good to be an Avali.
Lost Rinoah
(03-17-2016, 01:20 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: Hehehe. So that's what it looks like when someone who considers themselves sane goes through that type of test. So easy to effect... :UI think you're placing too much trust in Mengele's evaluation of Yellow. Assuming his observations are correct, what he says is chosen for careful effect. Add to that the fact that he may be lying, and you can't really put much stock in anything he says. Unfortunately, it's also a bad idea to ignore it out of hand as well. He's that kind of villain.
What point is there in fearing anything when we are all so small? Everyone has to die sometime. May as well make it feel worthwhile doing so. Fear leaves us sitting about afraid to accomplish anything, that we might fail. We needn't pretend it doesn't exist. Especially when you can turn it to your advantage. Eh?
(03-18-2016, 12:52 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: Aye, well, wanting to live is technically selfish, and wanting to die is even more selfish. Wanting to live, despite how many people die daily, means you value yourself more than other people, it's standard but it's selfish, however, we all need to be at least slightly selfish, otherwise we end up depressed, and it eventually breaks us. Eventually some are put into situations where they do not believe they can handle anymore, and they react wildly to it. They then take the quickest way to escape. Which is technically saying "Everyone else can deal with this. I am done." How you think about it, doesn't in the end change the fact of the matter. It is done only to help oneself.I get what you're saying about wanting to die being selfish, but I don't think your assertion that wanting to live is selfish necessarily holds. You assert that wanting to live even though other people are dying means you value yourself more than other people, but that is only true when your life contributes to their death. I know that people are dying over in Africa, for instance, but my continued existence does not cause those people to die, at least not in any way we can predict. Quite the contrary, actually--as an environmental scientist in training, I may eventually do work in Africa that helps to save lives, for example assisting people with improved farming practices, managing human-wildlife conflict, or other forms of community development.