(09-22-2015, 08:03 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 07:05 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]Really? Huh. Didn't know about those changes.
There's probably some other vestigial human structures that you could scrap, but I'm blanking on what they are.
Appendix? Have they found a use for that yet other than causing problems?
It used to have a use. It's no longer necessary, if I recall correctly.
(09-22-2015, 07:20 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]I did state that the Transformation device change (Yol not being in this time as she was destructively overpowered) it would force Coro into a single form so transformation is simply there as an explaination to why she is an avali.
soul abilities have the major downfall compared to Psi as to cause not only mental drain like Psi but also physical and soul relaxed injuries. I planned that she technically does not have Psi abilities though these soul abilities could be considered similar to low-mid Psi as their effects are similar. sadly... though is the fact its part of Coro's character and how i established her as. in fact compared to the original form (pre-RP) she was far more overpowered and i knew it. I also will not have her using the ability to revive others nor will i have her controlling minds as i find both overpowered in both soul abilities and Psionics. all i planned to do was allow her the ability to read weak willed minds and explore dreams of others. also i thought for sure that you were going to allow for reapers in this version. also if you feel the soul shield is too large of an advantage i am willing to part with it... though i will state she is gonna be intensely vulnerable to Psionic attacks from almost anyone because of the lack of it. however i do wish to retain her memory recovery. I was hoping that if there were reapers still in this world it would put alot of pressure onto Coro to even be able to use these abilities taking her focus away from other things... so there is no way she could use them in combat situations.
Short version of soul section: Removal of dealing with dead souls having to do with moving them. Removal of mind manipulation. Removal of soul shield. Retaining mind reading though lessened to weak beings. Retaining of mind repair from manipulation over time. Retaining ability to see other's souls at a short range (Ie. 10 feet) as that has little effect. is that approved of. also quick question... you stated the merging of the ethereal and physical planes as ghosts and such are still in... would that not technically already be considered part of the universe then? No Psionics at all in place of being able to see spirits and souls having slight control over them.
her abyss abilities are not in play as she can't use her natural form and they only come into play when she is in the form.
I am fully okay with frozen Ryujinnian Avali's for myself as i plan to maintain to his lore on avali biology at least.
if you have anything wrong with above and things needed to be explained further or tweeked please just say ... i am trying to maintain what i enjoy but still remain fair to others.
First tweak, as I understand it: the transformation is permanent. You are Avali. Or better explaination: it's the body the Ministry of Life gave you for this. Either way, no dragon here.
Second tweak is that you need a reason to be in the mortal world. My suggestion is that you are a recon, as odd recounts from recent souls (by recent I mean 30 years) means they need someone out there who can materialize for longer than two minutes to fgure out what the mortals did
this time.
Third tweak: the Underworld considers physical reapers a liability. Say anything about the afterlife, and a hired demon will forcefully drag you back through faster than you can say "the Court". If a group of mortals absolutely, definitely needs to know, be prepared to untangle the red tape that makes up the Underworld legal system.
You can be as much of a rookie or master reaper as you like, depending on where in the scale of experience you think would be more fun to play.
(09-22-2015, 09:15 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 07:20 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]I did state that the Transformation device change (Yol not being in this time as she was destructively overpowered) it would force Coro into a single form so transformation is simply there as an explaination to why she is an avali.
soul abilities have the major downfall compared to Psi as to cause not only mental drain like Psi but also physical and soul relaxed injuries. I planned that she technically does not have Psi abilities though these soul abilities could be considered similar to low-mid Psi as their effects are similar. sadly... though is the fact its part of Coro's character and how i established her as. in fact compared to the original form (pre-RP) she was far more overpowered and i knew it. I also will not have her using the ability to revive others nor will i have her controlling minds as i find both overpowered in both soul abilities and Psionics. all i planned to do was allow her the ability to read weak willed minds and explore dreams of others. also i thought for sure that you were going to allow for reapers in this version. also if you feel the soul shield is too large of an advantage i am willing to part with it... though i will state she is gonna be intensely vulnerable to Psionic attacks from almost anyone because of the lack of it. however i do wish to retain her memory recovery. I was hoping that if there were reapers still in this world it would put alot of pressure onto Coro to even be able to use these abilities taking her focus away from other things... so there is no way she could use them in combat situations.
Short version of soul section: Removal of dealing with dead souls having to do with moving them. Removal of mind manipulation. Removal of soul shield. Retaining mind reading though lessened to weak beings. Retaining of mind repair from manipulation over time. Retaining ability to see other's souls at a short range (Ie. 10 feet) as that has little effect. is that approved of. also quick question... you stated the merging of the ethereal and physical planes as ghosts and such are still in... would that not technically already be considered part of the universe then? No Psionics at all in place of being able to see spirits and souls having slight control over them.
her abyss abilities are not in play as she can't use her natural form and they only come into play when she is in the form.
I am fully okay with frozen Ryujinnian Avali's for myself as i plan to maintain to his lore on avali biology at least.
if you have anything wrong with above and things needed to be explained further or tweeked please just say ... i am trying to maintain what i enjoy but still remain fair to others.
First tweak, as I understand it: the transformation is permanent. You are Avali. Or better explaination: it's the body the Ministry of Life gave you for this. Either way, no dragon here.
Second tweak is that you need a reason to be in the mortal world. My suggestion is that you are a recon, as odd recounts from recent souls (by recent I mean 30 years) means they need someone out there who can materialize for longer than two minutes to fgure out what the mortals did this time.
Third tweak: the Underworld considers physical reapers a liability. Say anything about the afterlife, and a hired demon will forcefully drag you back through faster than you can say "the Court". If a group of mortals absolutely, definitely needs to know, be prepared to untangle the red tape that makes up the Underworld legal system.
You can be as much of a rookie or master reaper as you like, depending on where in the scale of experience you think would be more fun to play.
First tweak works just fine as i planned for that originally. she can have her transformation device left behind in her homeworld to prevent it from arising in the future.
Second tweak .... may i suggest being dragged in from her homeworld and made to take a form that fits the locals... i find that is alright. she is a physical reaper in her homeworld. perhaps conscripted from that world to work in this one due to above reason... would that not work?
Third tweak is similar to my reasons as to why coro would not interfere just instead of being regulated she can't say what she really is... that works fine for me.
I still feel being more of a rookie and this being more of a trial to show worth would work for this reasoning. investigation of whats going on works perfectly for me.
(09-22-2015, 09:48 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]First tweak works just fine as i planned for that originally. she can have her transformation device left behind in her homeworld to prevent it from arising in the future.
Second tweak .... may i suggest being dragged in from her homeworld and made to take a form that fits the locals... i find that is alright. she is a physical reaper in her homeworld. perhaps conscripted from that world to work in this one due to above reason... would that not work?
Third tweak is similar to my reasons as to why coro would not interfere just instead of being regulated she can't say what she really is... that works fine for me.
I still feel being more of a rookie and this being more of a trial to show worth would work for this reasoning. investigation of whats going on works perfectly for me.
Problem: the current version of the Underworld requires that one be
dead before you becone a reaper, as the ritual specifically takes one free soul and turns it into a reaper. Unless, of course, you're the child of reaper parents again.
Side note: As a reaper you are answerable to the Court. They took you out of the Circle of Life, and they have the rituals to put you straight back in. The occasional projection into the Underworld to explain what you have found, is required. When whatever problem the mortals unleashed is discovered, you did it, mission over, head back to the Underworld for debriefing, and the Court will decide if the problem effects the Underworld enough to act.
So that's my nerf for Coro. You're on a job! Don't screw around.
(09-22-2015, 10:27 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 09:48 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]First tweak works just fine as i planned for that originally. she can have her transformation device left behind in her homeworld to prevent it from arising in the future.
Second tweak .... may i suggest being dragged in from her homeworld and made to take a form that fits the locals... i find that is alright. she is a physical reaper in her homeworld. perhaps conscripted from that world to work in this one due to above reason... would that not work?
Third tweak is similar to my reasons as to why coro would not interfere just instead of being regulated she can't say what she really is... that works fine for me.
I still feel being more of a rookie and this being more of a trial to show worth would work for this reasoning. investigation of whats going on works perfectly for me.
Problem: the current version of the Underworld requires that one be dead before you becone a reaper, as the ritual specifically takes one free soul and turns it into a reaper. Unless, of course, you're the child of reaper parents again.
Side note: As a reaper you are answerable to the Court. They took you out of the Circle of Life, and they have the rituals to put you straight back in. The occasional projection into the Underworld to explain what you have found, is required. When whatever problem the mortals unleashed is discovered, you did it, mission over, head back to the Underworld for debriefing, and the Court will decide if the problem effects the Underworld enough to act.
So one thing I don't quite get... Are the Underworld/Court/Reapers "magical" (you mentioned rituals) or are they explainable parts of the universe; some sort of metaphysical plane of existence where things work in bizzare ways?
(09-22-2015, 10:31 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 10:27 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]Problem: the current version of the Underworld requires that one be dead before you becone a reaper, as the ritual specifically takes one free soul and turns it into a reaper. Unless, of course, you're the child of reaper parents again.
Side note: As a reaper you are answerable to the Court. They took you out of the Circle of Life, and they have the rituals to put you straight back in. The occasional projection into the Underworld to explain what you have found, is required. When whatever problem the mortals unleashed is discovered, you did it, mission over, head back to the Underworld for debriefing, and the Court will decide if the problem effects the Underworld enough to act.
So one thing I don't quite get... Are the Underworld/Court/Reapers "magical" (you mentioned rituals) or are they explainable parts of the universe; some sort of metaphysical plane of existence where things work in bizzare ways?
It's not really magical and more out of scope of our mortal plane, like the Elder Gods.
I mean for fuck sakes, we have
psychics.
(09-22-2015, 10:27 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 09:48 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]First tweak works just fine as i planned for that originally. she can have her transformation device left behind in her homeworld to prevent it from arising in the future.
Second tweak .... may i suggest being dragged in from her homeworld and made to take a form that fits the locals... i find that is alright. she is a physical reaper in her homeworld. perhaps conscripted from that world to work in this one due to above reason... would that not work?
Third tweak is similar to my reasons as to why coro would not interfere just instead of being regulated she can't say what she really is... that works fine for me.
I still feel being more of a rookie and this being more of a trial to show worth would work for this reasoning. investigation of whats going on works perfectly for me.
Problem: the current version of the Underworld requires that one be dead before you becone a reaper, as the ritual specifically takes one free soul and turns it into a reaper. Unless, of course, you're the child of reaper parents again.
Side note: As a reaper you are answerable to the Court. They took you out of the Circle of Life, and they have the rituals to put you straight back in. The occasional projection into the Underworld to explain what you have found, is required. When whatever problem the mortals unleashed is discovered, you did it, mission over, head back to the Underworld for debriefing, and the Court will decide if the problem effects the Underworld enough to act.
So that's my nerf for Coro. You're on a job! Don't screw around.
i... don't see a problem here... Coro's entire family is a long line of reapers that happened to be born into a world of their own. in fact... I have used something similar to the underworld in Coro's RP before though its named differently... i would not see an issue with the underworld and her world's version of it being connected in some way and have the ability to be summoned for a job.
(09-22-2015, 11:29 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 10:27 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]Problem: the current version of the Underworld requires that one be dead before you becone a reaper, as the ritual specifically takes one free soul and turns it into a reaper. Unless, of course, you're the child of reaper parents again.
Side note: As a reaper you are answerable to the Court. They took you out of the Circle of Life, and they have the rituals to put you straight back in. The occasional projection into the Underworld to explain what you have found, is required. When whatever problem the mortals unleashed is discovered, you did it, mission over, head back to the Underworld for debriefing, and the Court will decide if the problem effects the Underworld enough to act.
So that's my nerf for Coro. You're on a job! Don't screw around.
i... don't see a problem here... Coro's entire family is a long line of reapers that happened to be born into a world of their own. in fact... I have used something similar to the underworld in Coro's RP before though its named differently... i would not see an issue with the underworld and her world's version of it being connected in some way and have the ability to be summoned for a job.
Just wanted clarification before I completely and accidentally mutilate your character.
(09-22-2015, 11:59 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 11:29 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]i... don't see a problem here... Coro's entire family is a long line of reapers that happened to be born into a world of their own. in fact... I have used something similar to the underworld in Coro's RP before though its named differently... i would not see an issue with the underworld and her world's version of it being connected in some way and have the ability to be summoned for a job.
Just wanted clarification before I completely and accidentally mutilate your character.
*Breaks through window* I heard mutiliation. Where're the cleavers?
(09-22-2015, 11:59 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 11:29 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]i... don't see a problem here... Coro's entire family is a long line of reapers that happened to be born into a world of their own. in fact... I have used something similar to the underworld in Coro's RP before though its named differently... i would not see an issue with the underworld and her world's version of it being connected in some way and have the ability to be summoned for a job.
Just wanted clarification before I completely and accidentally mutilate your character.
of course... i am trying to work your idea into the lore of my character... for my characters.. there was always two ways of traversing worlds.
the first was breaking down the dimentional barrier by force. this is the method Yol uses to travel between worlds and without recent modifications left damage in her wake.
the second was traversing the underworlds of the dimensions as they had ties to each other in some way. Coro's underworld is called the soul lands and holds connections to other underworlds in other dimensions but require authority to pass through. This is the event that would allow your idea to work perfectly with my character. Think of these gates as a reapers border crossing and needing the right visas to get through. break the terms of the visa and you get deported and punished in their homeworld and/or have to deal with the local authorities and punished by their laws.
(09-22-2015, 08:07 PM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 08:03 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]Appendix? Have they found a use for that yet other than causing problems?
It used to have a use. It's no longer necessary, if I recall correctly.
Although nobody has tested due to the slow genetic over-write of it's benefit. (It's not saving lives anymore so people with it live shorter lives thus making people with weak or missing ones genetically dominant) It's guessed either that it used to control the consumption of toxic materials and possibly parasites within the human body so it did not effect you as horribly and just kill you outright.
Actually you can study on the move. It just limits you on what you can accomplish mostly to things like meteorogical, metalworking, electronics, and a lot of zero G only expertise. (Nano-lathe and rapid creation of 3D shapes is much more rapid and easier to study and develope/recycle in zero-G meaning developement of nanolathe would be appropriate) Ryu's designed mod has food that is meant to grow rapidly in many environments including those that would outright kill the avali by lore.
What of an alternate breed of the avali that is more of an offshoot. Whose body allows survival upon worlds that are murderous to the normal race? It is in fact possible for distant or stranded cells of a race to slowly develop a natural adaptation with time. Just no major adaptations beyond those beneficial to survival. Could this RP be adapted with possibly a distant offshoot race that sits aside the normal avali ? The chamileo-bloods or sommat.
I can explain nearly everything from superpowers to pseudoscience in a highly technical manor. Ask me if you want any help Silver. Though I'm new so you'd obviously never trust me. May as well toss my hat in either way. I'd be glad to help.
Converse or set aside with reasons why. Either way whichever is more beneficial is acceptable to me.
(09-23-2015, 12:24 AM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2015, 11:59 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]Just wanted clarification before I completely and accidentally mutilate your character.
of course... i am trying to work your idea into the lore of my character... for my characters.. there was always two ways of traversing worlds.
the first was breaking down the dimentional barrier by force. this is the method Yol uses to travel between worlds and without recent modifications left damage in her wake.
the second was traversing the underworlds of the dimensions as they had ties to each other in some way. Coro's underworld is called the soul lands and holds connections to other underworlds in other dimensions but require authority to pass through. This is the event that would allow your idea to work perfectly with my character. Think of these gates as a reapers border crossing and needing the right visas to get through. break the terms of the visa and you get deported and punished in their homeworld and/or have to deal with the local authorities and punished by their laws.
I prefer the latter idea, since it doesn't involve explaining how another hole in the universe works, and makes the afterlife have real power. I guess they would be independent of each other, most of the time.
(09-23-2015, 03:36 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]What of an alternate breed of the avali that is more of an offshoot. Whose body allows survival upon worlds that are murderous to the normal race? It is in fact possible for distant or stranded cells of a race to slowly develop a natural adaptation with time. Just no major adaptations beyond those beneficial to survival. Could this RP be adapted with possibly a distant offshoot race that sits aside the normal avali ? The chamileo-bloods or sommat.
Well, I could do that by making the offshoot part of the [SPOILERS] group, who are several species that [CENSORED] [EXPUNGE] [LEVEL 4 ACCESS REQUIRED] [GOBLINS GOBLINS GOBLINS].
(09-23-2015, 04:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2015, 12:24 AM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]of course... i am trying to work your idea into the lore of my character... for my characters.. there was always two ways of traversing worlds.
the first was breaking down the dimentional barrier by force. this is the method Yol uses to travel between worlds and without recent modifications left damage in her wake.
the second was traversing the underworlds of the dimensions as they had ties to each other in some way. Coro's underworld is called the soul lands and holds connections to other underworlds in other dimensions but require authority to pass through. This is the event that would allow your idea to work perfectly with my character. Think of these gates as a reapers border crossing and needing the right visas to get through. break the terms of the visa and you get deported and punished in their homeworld and/or have to deal with the local authorities and punished by their laws.
I prefer the latter idea, since it doesn't involve explaining how another hole in the universe works, and makes the afterlife have real power. I guess they would be independent of each other, most of the time.
(09-23-2015, 03:36 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]What of an alternate breed of the avali that is more of an offshoot. Whose body allows survival upon worlds that are murderous to the normal race? It is in fact possible for distant or stranded cells of a race to slowly develop a natural adaptation with time. Just no major adaptations beyond those beneficial to survival. Could this RP be adapted with possibly a distant offshoot race that sits aside the normal avali ? The chamileo-bloods or sommat.
Well, I could do that by making the offshoot part of the [SPOILERS] group, who are several species that [CENSORED] [EXPUNGE] [LEVEL 4 ACCESS REQUIRED] [GOBLINS GOBLINS GOBLINS].
...The real question is if Goblins are actually in said group.
(09-23-2015, 05:09 AM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2015, 04:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer the latter idea, since it doesn't involve explaining how another hole in the universe works, and makes the afterlife have real power. I guess they would be independent of each other, most of the time.
Well, I could do that by making the offshoot part of the [SPOILERS] group, who are several species that [CENSORED] [EXPUNGE] [LEVEL 4 ACCESS REQUIRED] [GOBLINS GOBLINS GOBLINS].
...The real question is if Goblins are actually in said group.
No, it's just a MtG joke.
(09-23-2015, 04:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2015, 12:24 AM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]of course... i am trying to work your idea into the lore of my character... for my characters.. there was always two ways of traversing worlds.
the first was breaking down the dimentional barrier by force. this is the method Yol uses to travel between worlds and without recent modifications left damage in her wake.
the second was traversing the underworlds of the dimensions as they had ties to each other in some way. Coro's underworld is called the soul lands and holds connections to other underworlds in other dimensions but require authority to pass through. This is the event that would allow your idea to work perfectly with my character. Think of these gates as a reapers border crossing and needing the right visas to get through. break the terms of the visa and you get deported and punished in their homeworld and/or have to deal with the local authorities and punished by their laws.
I prefer the latter idea, since it doesn't involve explaining how another hole in the universe works, and makes the afterlife have real power. I guess they would be independent of each other, most of the time.
Well what i was stating was what was part of Coro and her families traits... the second one is the method we will be using for this of course as Yol won't appear again this time around. Coro is on a requested job... and as such Yol will not interfere with it. the underworld method of moving between worlds would keep well with both Coro's lore and the lore of the RP so i am happy to go with that method if your fine with it.
(09-23-2015, 04:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2015, 12:24 AM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]of course... i am trying to work your idea into the lore of my character... for my characters.. there was always two ways of traversing worlds.
the first was breaking down the dimentional barrier by force. this is the method Yol uses to travel between worlds and without recent modifications left damage in her wake.
the second was traversing the underworlds of the dimensions as they had ties to each other in some way. Coro's underworld is called the soul lands and holds connections to other underworlds in other dimensions but require authority to pass through. This is the event that would allow your idea to work perfectly with my character. Think of these gates as a reapers border crossing and needing the right visas to get through. break the terms of the visa and you get deported and punished in their homeworld and/or have to deal with the local authorities and punished by their laws.
I prefer the latter idea, since it doesn't involve explaining how another hole in the universe works, and makes the afterlife have real power. I guess they would be independent of each other, most of the time.
(09-23-2015, 03:36 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]What of an alternate breed of the avali that is more of an offshoot. Whose body allows survival upon worlds that are murderous to the normal race? It is in fact possible for distant or stranded cells of a race to slowly develop a natural adaptation with time. Just no major adaptations beyond those beneficial to survival. Could this RP be adapted with possibly a distant offshoot race that sits aside the normal avali ? The chamileo-bloods or sommat.
Well, I could do that by making the offshoot part of the [SPOILERS] group, who are several species that [CENSORED] [EXPUNGE] [LEVEL 4 ACCESS REQUIRED] [GOBLINS GOBLINS GOBLINS].
We could also say the the Avali have genetically engineered their race over a long period of time so that each new generation would be better adapted to other climates and environments.
They would be able to survive on an earth-like world for a short time without any survival gear; A few hours with it.
This would even make sense in terms of their nomadic lifestyle. Being better suited for different environments would make them less restricted on where they set up camp.
(09-23-2015, 05:22 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2015, 05:09 AM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]...The real question is if Goblins are actually in said group.
No, it's just a MtG joke.
Speaking of goblins, the Goblin Piledriver is standard again.
(09-23-2015, 07:59 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2015, 04:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer the latter idea, since it doesn't involve explaining how another hole in the universe works, and makes the afterlife have real power. I guess they would be independent of each other, most of the time.
Well, I could do that by making the offshoot part of the [SPOILERS] group, who are several species that [CENSORED] [EXPUNGE] [LEVEL 4 ACCESS REQUIRED] [GOBLINS GOBLINS GOBLINS].
We could also say the the Avali have genetically engineered their race over a long period of time so that each new generation would be better adapted to other climates and environments.
They would be able to survive on an earth-like world for a short time without any survival gear; A few hours with it.
This would even make sense in terms of their nomadic lifestyle. Being better suited for different environments would make them less restricted on where they set up camp.
By being part of the [INFO DELETED] an offshoot would have a reason to be in this galaxy on the first place. Genetic manipulation isn't mutually exclusive here.