(09-05-2015, 02:39 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-03-2015, 02:46 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]But graphene must be a thing.
Or marx has no skeleton.
Graphene is not a god material.
Quantum Crystalline is near indestructible.
(09-04-2015, 03:28 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]They're an empire and they're called the hylotl. Take your pick from the thousands of companies within.
Or if you ditched the flashy doodads and want tech proven to work on the occasion, novakids.
I like the first idea, Empires work.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum-crystalline_armor
This is Quantum Crystalline, it's resistant to fucking supernovas.
Nothing like that, okay?
Also, no nuclear weapons.
And much more impossible to make enough for a suit of armor.
We won't have the technology for centuries to forge it, and in macroscopic quantities even then.
And on top of that, sufficient kinetic shock will still kill the person inside without having to penetrate the armor.
Nothing is invincible.
(09-05-2015, 02:51 AM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:39 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Graphene is not a god material.
Quantum Crystalline is near indestructible.
I like the first idea, Empires work.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum-crystalline_armor
This is Quantum Crystalline, it's resistant to fucking supernovas.
Nothing like that, okay?
Also, no nuclear weapons.
And much more impossible to make enough for a suit of armor.
We won't have the technology for centuries to forge it, and in macroscopic quantities even then.
And on top of that, sufficient kinetic shock will still kill the person inside without having to penetrate the armor.
Nothing is invincible.
Fair point.
Also, AI
How advanced will they be at this stage?
Like almost lifelike or just like Cleverbot.
(09-05-2015, 02:56 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:51 AM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]And much more impossible to make enough for a suit of armor.
We won't have the technology for centuries to forge it, and in macroscopic quantities even then.
And on top of that, sufficient kinetic shock will still kill the person inside without having to penetrate the armor.
Nothing is invincible.
Fair point.
Also, AI
How advanced will they be at this stage?
Like almost lifelike or just like Cleverbot.
I say 1 step above cleverbot.
(09-05-2015, 02:56 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:51 AM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]And much more impossible to make enough for a suit of armor.
We won't have the technology for centuries to forge it, and in macroscopic quantities even then.
And on top of that, sufficient kinetic shock will still kill the person inside without having to penetrate the armor.
Nothing is invincible.
Fair point.
Also, AI
How advanced will they be at this stage?
Like almost lifelike or just like Cleverbot.
Almost lifelike. In fact, they might even mimic life so well you'd think they used a living thing to make it!
spoiler they probably do.
(09-05-2015, 03:19 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:56 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Fair point.
Also, AI
How advanced will they be at this stage?
Like almost lifelike or just like Cleverbot.
Almost lifelike. In fact, they might even mimic life so well you'd think they used a living thing to make it!
spoiler they probably do.
Nah, i think maybe midway, make it interesting.
A step or two below human, not 200 steps above
(09-05-2015, 03:19 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:56 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Fair point.
Also, AI
How advanced will they be at this stage?
Like almost lifelike or just like Cleverbot.
Almost lifelike. In fact, they might even mimic life so well you'd think they used a living thing to make it!
spoiler they probably do.
My idea was a really high IQ but horrible understanding of humans, horrible communication and an almost non-existant EQ
(09-05-2015, 02:39 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-03-2015, 02:46 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]But graphene must be a thing.
Or marx has no skeleton.
Graphene is not a god material.
Quantum Crystalline is near indestructible.
(09-04-2015, 03:28 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]They're an empire and they're called the hylotl. Take your pick from the thousands of companies within.
Or if you ditched the flashy doodads and want tech proven to work on the occasion, novakids.
I like the first idea, Empires work.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum-crystalline_armor
This is Quantum Crystalline, it's resistant to fucking supernovas.
Nothing like that, okay?
Also, no nuclear weapons.
You speak out AGAINST nukes? What madness is this?
(09-05-2015, 08:27 AM)Jim_Clonk Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:39 AM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Graphene is not a god material.
Quantum Crystalline is near indestructible.
I like the first idea, Empires work.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum-crystalline_armor
This is Quantum Crystalline, it's resistant to fucking supernovas.
Nothing like that, okay?
Also, no nuclear weapons.
You speak out AGAINST nukes? What madness is this?
Is not madness, is Sparta.
Sorry...
Oh who am I kidding no I'm not.
Okay i am here and latee to the party like usual. i have a few thing i need to clear up a bit
(08-17-2015, 03:11 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ]yes okay discussion stuff okay yes
Personally, I think that we should start over in a way...maybe not, say, kicking the universe and completely remaking it, but certainly new characters and maybe a new setting.
I dunno.
I don't mind though most likely i will remain with my main i have been using
(08-17-2015, 05:01 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2015, 04:52 AM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]I do think there should be balance to magic too, like it has a cost or physical requirement of the user. Say telekinesis burns up calories like a bitch and you either have to eat like a pig or have a good bit of extra padding to do it frequently without organ deterioration.
Other forms of "magic" should avoid spontaneous generation and easy to access pocket dimensions. Controlling electricity for example would be incredibly dangerous even to the wielder, fireball throwers would still themselves burn.
Also, i say no to allowing any form of grey goo due to how rediculously high tech, dangerous, and abusable it is. A human sized blob of the stuff would cost more money than probably exists in any one bank account.
Why the hell do some people keep on suggesting magic? I mean, if you wanted magic and technology you should have just played a game of Shadowrun.
Seriously though, I just don't feel like magic is right. It's ridiculously open ended and revolves around hand waving everything that could be thought of. I'm not saying I'm going for hard science, but full on, "fireball fireball fireball ice ice ice" isn't what I'm looking for in a space opera.
You can just get augments to shoot fire out of your palms anyways, but you're bringing the fuel too.
hmm i am not sure what i would call Coro's abilities but i already plan to have them set up with an intense cost like beforee.... maybe even worse
(08-17-2015, 03:37 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2015, 06:36 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]That works!
Perhaps the beings that live on the other side could be wisplike/ethereal in form, and maybe have ways of manipulating the physical world and/or its inhabitants- like a nerfed Bill Cipher. Not omnipotent or all-powerful, but maybe a source of minor shenanigans and/or the previously mentioned " devil deals".
What would also be interesting is if some religions were partly based on the existence of this alternate world- perhaps they'd view it as hell, and the "ghosts" as demons.
Does no-one remember my original OOC experiment with demons? Anyone? No?
I also would like to collapse the spirit planes together, since the original version involved several planes that overlapped each other. This would mean the reapers would need a new job description, and the spooky elder gods a new place in the [unreadable] to hang out and eat souls. However, it means more spirits and other denizens of the Underworld would be in contact with the physical world.
well the "Ethereal plane" coro continuously peered into with her soul abilities was decribed as such to keep complexity down originally make it a bit easier to understand. what i was intending to say originally was that Coro was simply using her abilities to allow her to see souls and spirits. something normally mortals are unable to see but still exist in the world. in a way Coro would not need too much retcon here as it still fits rather well.
(08-18-2015, 12:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2015, 09:42 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]So yeah.
Ghosts that are actually otherdimensional beings.
Maybe we should make it so that they can't physically interact with living creatures? Perhaps they can only be seen and talked to, not touched?
Well it's less otherdimensional beings and more honest-to-goodness souls.
But yeah spooky stuff in a sci-fi game.
That was already there.
I have always considered the souls and ghosts as in the physical world... so....
(09-02-2015, 03:27 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]The Psionics idea: Or, how I tried to not make them overpowered.
Psionics is defined in-universe as mental interaction with other minds. On a scale not meant to sum up sections of science, it's more complicated than that.
To begin, there is a "psi scale", or a rough estimate of psionic presence, uncorrelated with IQ or willpower. It runs on a brief scale between two extremes, 0.0 and 2.0. Most humans end up at 0.9 at the start of adulthood (the teenage mind going through one hell of a psi rollercoaster until then), with almost every other species (including non-sapient species, yes) following a similar pattern of 0.8s or 0.9s, except for the Novakids, who get to be special and have 0.5, and kineptics, who get to be more special and have 1.0. (side note: Kineptics will deny that their race is psionicly above average. This isn't a matter of disbelief, because they're hiding the existence of their glove-tech crystals too.) This number can either be raised through years of training and/or psi use, or by invasive cybernetics and the complimentary chemical cocktails. Unsurprisingly, one raises your lifespan and the other drastically cuts it short.
1.0 psi is considered a beginner's number, where the skill difficultly drops off quickly and opens up to the first psionic skills. It is also considered the most vulnerable level of psi, due to an odd scale of difficulty: towards one end of the scale, the heavy psionic presence allows the vicitm to subconsciously "fight back", towards the other end, the low psi makes it difficult for Psionics to make a presence in their mind. Note that one does not necessarily need to be 1.0 to begin psi training, only that it easier by a good magnitude otherwise.
Side note: High-End skills cannot be reached in a week/month/year of training and either require turning your body into a zombie of artificial compounds, or spend half your life constantly increasing one's Psi presence to have the mental output to use them.
Psionic skills, in order from easiest to hardest (work in progress, feel free to suggest more skills):
- Psi radar
- Thought reading
- Mind throttling
- Mind control
- Mind reading
Psi Radar:
This one is simply "feeling" the area around you for psi presence. This causes some disorientation on the first few tries, due to the three-dimensional result of the skill. High-level Psionics can do this on the fly (or even without closing their eyes, which is something easily-nauseated people really should not attempt) without the meditative "clear your mind"/"let's inject the first round of Mercarium-I6" setup needed by beginners. As they get more skilled, the mapping of psi becomes more precise and clear.
Thought Reading:
This skill requires focusing on a single mind in the area, and "listening" to the presence for words, images, and sounds from their thoughts. Note that thought means that the subject must be actively thinking about something, and that the Psionic only ever gets whatever's passing through the subject's head at that moment. This skill requires a brief jump in psi power from Psi Radar due to the sensitivity required to get thoughts from the "noise".
Mind Throttling:
This is a heavy jump from the previous skill, and peaceful trainers never teach from this point onward. The first invasive skill, with no ability to direct working thoughts at the subject yet, this means simply blasting the victim's mind with random noise, preventing coherent thoughts and causing them to writhe and scream from a pain they do not physically feel. Being subject to constant throttling can actually lower one's psi presence, along with mental damage. However, only one subject can be the target of this, and throttling requires hefty focus on the subject until the sadistic Psionic ends the duration.
Mind Control:
The subtle version of the above, it is not the classic idea of mind control as we know it. The Psionic implants thoughts into the head of the victim, which can lead to them preforming actions that would usually be out of character, or or more emotionally unstable subjects, only needed the push to get going. However, if the thoughts are too suspiciously out of place or downright out of character, the victim can react by simply rejecting the fake thoughts, and make decisions without it. This means a good Psionic must study the mind of their victim to use the skill to it's fullest, and play off of established biases to lead them to a specific outcome. Note that more than once a poorly-made thought has lead to a subject making a conclusion that the Psionic did not intend...
Mind Reading:
The rich man's thought reading. By using the recall triggers of their subject, they can copy information from the victim's long term memory. The recall-trigger method, however, means that the Psionic cannot find information that the subject has forgotten, or has obscure triggers to, but can otherwise work with whatever trigger the Psionic inputs, whether that input be "government secrets" or [CENSORED]. The skill does not go completely unnoticed, though: the subject feels a constant "pulling" at the back of their mind, and may randomly and suddenly think of a trigger or memory that the Psionic is inputting or copying, most often when the Psionic is an amateur to this skill.
Side note: Psychokinesis is considered a different branch from Psionics by most scientists, even though they share the Psi Scale, because of how Psychokinesis works. I'll get to that later, anyways.
hmmm some of coro's abilities would be similar to psionics... the soul abilities do allow for protection towards mind manipulation and permanent mind damage... though enough force can shatter the soul barrier she uses to protect herself from such attacks. a farely adapt psionic would be able to distract her enough to slow her actions as she would need to focus on repairing against the psionic attack. she also uses the soul as a gateway into another mind. so... i think it would work exceptionally similar to psionics.. i hope its not too much of an issue for anyone.
(09-02-2015, 04:58 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]In the meantime, have this creepy fact about thought reading. TL;DR: Don't thought read sleeping people. {Edit: Fuck, mean thought reading this entire time, not mind reading. Fucking hell, brain}
A scientifically proven event with Psionics using Thought Reading has been known as a "Dream Trap". According to the research paper done in 2103, a Psionic reading the thoughts of a subject who is showing signs of dreaming has... unsettling results. Instantaneously, once the Psionic initiates the subject, the Psionic falls into a state of the sleep that normally occurs late in the cycle and is where dreams are theorized to spawn from. Although the state was otherwise completely normal and the Psionics and the Subjects were both unharmed, the scientists involved in the research reported that looking at their bodies was "unsettling, or otherwise out of place". It doesn't end there. Even though not a single psionic thought is transmitted throughout the dream (as would be visible on a Psi Radar, if it even took place at all during Thought Reading) , upon waking up both the subjects and the Psionics recalled scattered memories of the dream. The loss of information was extremely high even when interviewed as fast as possible after waking. When recalling what they could, both also recalled feelings of fear, desperation, and a Fight or Flight response even when recalling scenes that seemed detached from these feelings. Some recalled even seeing the other in the dream, even remembering bits of conversation, with odd blanks resulting in a loss of what the conversation was about.
When the research finally ended 2 months later, the research team had logged over 30 trials of Dream Traps. The head scientist's personal log for the final trial was not originally included, despite it including all others, but was later found on a server the team sold in 2123, and uploaded without their consent.
"[...][The trial] was 64 minutes in when something happened. The neurologist rushed in from the other room to inform me Subject 225's higher brain function ceased a second ago. We rushed in to the room, but to no avail. 225 was a vegetable. And yet, even though the victim had lost every single mental function needed to dream, our still 'normal' Psionic kept 'dreaming' for two minutes afterwards, the medical team logging enough adrenaline being pumped into his blood to kickstart a horse.
When he woke up, everyone on the team was in his room, lying around, leaning on the walls, somewhere, waiting to see if he was still alive. He sat up on the scanner bed, and started silently crying. And well, I know for a fact that Muhammad was 1.7 scale Psionic. He had to wrack a few heads to get to the level he was at, and now should not have been the time he broke down. It was so out of place, I only got the courage to ask what was wrong around half a minute later. I regretted the question when I heard his response.
'I couldn't save him.'"
Coro when "invading" another's dream goes comatose for that reason. for her to wake the host also needs to. this poses a risk as if the host fails to ever wake again she too will never wake.
(09-03-2015, 12:10 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Can we make it so there is no god materials for armour like quantum crystalline from Star Wars?
That shit's OP.
i only have one thing that is made of god like material...though it can't do anything to protect coro from fatal wounds... her transformation device is nearly indestructable to resist the effects of her transforming which brings that up too.... i plan to lessen how often she uses that.... basically only as a diplomatic like tool. Change into another race to allow the target to feel more comfortable remaining in an avali form otherwise. i find dragon coro would be too intense of an advantage. I am also thinking of TF sickness... basically she changes and is unable to focus her soul abilities and feels groggy for a period of time.
basically same coro'vali just increased strain on using her soul abilities and without the ability to change into a dragon at a moments notice...
(09-05-2015, 01:32 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]Okay i am here and latee to the party like usual. i have a few thing i need to clear up a bit
(08-17-2015, 03:11 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ]yes okay discussion stuff okay yes
Personally, I think that we should start over in a way...maybe not, say, kicking the universe and completely remaking it, but certainly new characters and maybe a new setting.
I dunno.
I don't mind though most likely i will remain with my main i have been using
(08-17-2015, 05:01 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]Why the hell do some people keep on suggesting magic? I mean, if you wanted magic and technology you should have just played a game of Shadowrun.
Seriously though, I just don't feel like magic is right. It's ridiculously open ended and revolves around hand waving everything that could be thought of. I'm not saying I'm going for hard science, but full on, "fireball fireball fireball ice ice ice" isn't what I'm looking for in a space opera.
You can just get augments to shoot fire out of your palms anyways, but you're bringing the fuel too.
hmm i am not sure what i would call Coro's abilities but i already plan to have them set up with an intense cost like beforee.... maybe even worse
(08-17-2015, 03:37 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]Does no-one remember my original OOC experiment with demons? Anyone? No?
I also would like to collapse the spirit planes together, since the original version involved several planes that overlapped each other. This would mean the reapers would need a new job description, and the spooky elder gods a new place in the [unreadable] to hang out and eat souls. However, it means more spirits and other denizens of the Underworld would be in contact with the physical world.
well the "Ethereal plane" coro continuously peered into with her soul abilities was decribed as such to keep complexity down originally make it a bit easier to understand. what i was intending to say originally was that Coro was simply using her abilities to allow her to see souls and spirits. something normally mortals are unable to see but still exist in the world. in a way Coro would not need too much retcon here as it still fits rather well.
(08-18-2015, 12:56 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]Well it's less otherdimensional beings and more honest-to-goodness souls.
But yeah spooky stuff in a sci-fi game.
That was already there.
I have always considered the souls and ghosts as in the physical world... so....
(09-02-2015, 03:27 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]The Psionics idea: Or, how I tried to not make them overpowered.
Psionics is defined in-universe as mental interaction with other minds. On a scale not meant to sum up sections of science, it's more complicated than that.
To begin, there is a "psi scale", or a rough estimate of psionic presence, uncorrelated with IQ or willpower. It runs on a brief scale between two extremes, 0.0 and 2.0. Most humans end up at 0.9 at the start of adulthood (the teenage mind going through one hell of a psi rollercoaster until then), with almost every other species (including non-sapient species, yes) following a similar pattern of 0.8s or 0.9s, except for the Novakids, who get to be special and have 0.5, and kineptics, who get to be more special and have 1.0. (side note: Kineptics will deny that their race is psionicly above average. This isn't a matter of disbelief, because they're hiding the existence of their glove-tech crystals too.) This number can either be raised through years of training and/or psi use, or by invasive cybernetics and the complimentary chemical cocktails. Unsurprisingly, one raises your lifespan and the other drastically cuts it short.
1.0 psi is considered a beginner's number, where the skill difficultly drops off quickly and opens up to the first psionic skills. It is also considered the most vulnerable level of psi, due to an odd scale of difficulty: towards one end of the scale, the heavy psionic presence allows the vicitm to subconsciously "fight back", towards the other end, the low psi makes it difficult for Psionics to make a presence in their mind. Note that one does not necessarily need to be 1.0 to begin psi training, only that it easier by a good magnitude otherwise.
Side note: High-End skills cannot be reached in a week/month/year of training and either require turning your body into a zombie of artificial compounds, or spend half your life constantly increasing one's Psi presence to have the mental output to use them.
Psionic skills, in order from easiest to hardest (work in progress, feel free to suggest more skills):
- Psi radar
- Thought reading
- Mind throttling
- Mind control
- Mind reading
Psi Radar:
This one is simply "feeling" the area around you for psi presence. This causes some disorientation on the first few tries, due to the three-dimensional result of the skill. High-level Psionics can do this on the fly (or even without closing their eyes, which is something easily-nauseated people really should not attempt) without the meditative "clear your mind"/"let's inject the first round of Mercarium-I6" setup needed by beginners. As they get more skilled, the mapping of psi becomes more precise and clear.
Thought Reading:
This skill requires focusing on a single mind in the area, and "listening" to the presence for words, images, and sounds from their thoughts. Note that thought means that the subject must be actively thinking about something, and that the Psionic only ever gets whatever's passing through the subject's head at that moment. This skill requires a brief jump in psi power from Psi Radar due to the sensitivity required to get thoughts from the "noise".
Mind Throttling:
This is a heavy jump from the previous skill, and peaceful trainers never teach from this point onward. The first invasive skill, with no ability to direct working thoughts at the subject yet, this means simply blasting the victim's mind with random noise, preventing coherent thoughts and causing them to writhe and scream from a pain they do not physically feel. Being subject to constant throttling can actually lower one's psi presence, along with mental damage. However, only one subject can be the target of this, and throttling requires hefty focus on the subject until the sadistic Psionic ends the duration.
Mind Control:
The subtle version of the above, it is not the classic idea of mind control as we know it. The Psionic implants thoughts into the head of the victim, which can lead to them preforming actions that would usually be out of character, or or more emotionally unstable subjects, only needed the push to get going. However, if the thoughts are too suspiciously out of place or downright out of character, the victim can react by simply rejecting the fake thoughts, and make decisions without it. This means a good Psionic must study the mind of their victim to use the skill to it's fullest, and play off of established biases to lead them to a specific outcome. Note that more than once a poorly-made thought has lead to a subject making a conclusion that the Psionic did not intend...
Mind Reading:
The rich man's thought reading. By using the recall triggers of their subject, they can copy information from the victim's long term memory. The recall-trigger method, however, means that the Psionic cannot find information that the subject has forgotten, or has obscure triggers to, but can otherwise work with whatever trigger the Psionic inputs, whether that input be "government secrets" or [CENSORED]. The skill does not go completely unnoticed, though: the subject feels a constant "pulling" at the back of their mind, and may randomly and suddenly think of a trigger or memory that the Psionic is inputting or copying, most often when the Psionic is an amateur to this skill.
Side note: Psychokinesis is considered a different branch from Psionics by most scientists, even though they share the Psi Scale, because of how Psychokinesis works. I'll get to that later, anyways.
hmmm some of coro's abilities would be similar to psionics... the soul abilities do allow for protection towards mind manipulation and permanent mind damage... though enough force can shatter the soul barrier she uses to protect herself from such attacks. a farely adapt psionic would be able to distract her enough to slow her actions as she would need to focus on repairing against the psionic attack. she also uses the soul as a gateway into another mind. so... i think it would work exceptionally similar to psionics.. i hope its not too much of an issue for anyone.
(09-02-2015, 04:58 PM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]In the meantime, have this creepy fact about thought reading. TL;DR: Don't thought read sleeping people. {Edit: Fuck, mean thought reading this entire time, not mind reading. Fucking hell, brain}
A scientifically proven event with Psionics using Thought Reading has been known as a "Dream Trap". According to the research paper done in 2103, a Psionic reading the thoughts of a subject who is showing signs of dreaming has... unsettling results. Instantaneously, once the Psionic initiates the subject, the Psionic falls into a state of the sleep that normally occurs late in the cycle and is where dreams are theorized to spawn from. Although the state was otherwise completely normal and the Psionics and the Subjects were both unharmed, the scientists involved in the research reported that looking at their bodies was "unsettling, or otherwise out of place". It doesn't end there. Even though not a single psionic thought is transmitted throughout the dream (as would be visible on a Psi Radar, if it even took place at all during Thought Reading) , upon waking up both the subjects and the Psionics recalled scattered memories of the dream. The loss of information was extremely high even when interviewed as fast as possible after waking. When recalling what they could, both also recalled feelings of fear, desperation, and a Fight or Flight response even when recalling scenes that seemed detached from these feelings. Some recalled even seeing the other in the dream, even remembering bits of conversation, with odd blanks resulting in a loss of what the conversation was about.
When the research finally ended 2 months later, the research team had logged over 30 trials of Dream Traps. The head scientist's personal log for the final trial was not originally included, despite it including all others, but was later found on a server the team sold in 2123, and uploaded without their consent.
"[...][The trial] was 64 minutes in when something happened. The neurologist rushed in from the other room to inform me Subject 225's higher brain function ceased a second ago. We rushed in to the room, but to no avail. 225 was a vegetable. And yet, even though the victim had lost every single mental function needed to dream, our still 'normal' Psionic kept 'dreaming' for two minutes afterwards, the medical team logging enough adrenaline being pumped into his blood to kickstart a horse.
When he woke up, everyone on the team was in his room, lying around, leaning on the walls, somewhere, waiting to see if he was still alive. He sat up on the scanner bed, and started silently crying. And well, I know for a fact that Muhammad was 1.7 scale Psionic. He had to wrack a few heads to get to the level he was at, and now should not have been the time he broke down. It was so out of place, I only got the courage to ask what was wrong around half a minute later. I regretted the question when I heard his response.
'I couldn't save him.'"
Coro when "invading" another's dream goes comatose for that reason. for her to wake the host also needs to. this poses a risk as if the host fails to ever wake again she too will never wake.
(09-03-2015, 12:10 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Can we make it so there is no god materials for armour like quantum crystalline from Star Wars?
That shit's OP.
i only have one thing that is made of god like material...though it can't do anything to protect coro from fatal wounds... her transformation device is nearly indestructable to resist the effects of her transforming which brings that up too.... i plan to lessen how often she uses that.... basically only as a diplomatic like tool. Change into another race to allow the target to feel more comfortable remaining in an avali form otherwise. i find dragon coro would be too intense of an advantage. I am also thinking of TF sickness... basically she changes and is unable to focus her soul abilities and feels groggy for a period of time.
basically same coro'vali just increased strain on using her soul abilities and without the ability to change into a dragon at a moments notice...
This is a SERIOUS rp, so just taxing everything isn't going to work sadly, I honestly don't think we're going to allow any shapeshifting as its basically rewriting your atomic structure.
I do though think the soul stuff will work fine.
(09-05-2015, 01:46 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 01:32 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]Okay i am here and latee to the party like usual. i have a few thing i need to clear up a bit
I don't mind though most likely i will remain with my main i have been using
hmm i am not sure what i would call Coro's abilities but i already plan to have them set up with an intense cost like beforee.... maybe even worse
well the "Ethereal plane" coro continuously peered into with her soul abilities was decribed as such to keep complexity down originally make it a bit easier to understand. what i was intending to say originally was that Coro was simply using her abilities to allow her to see souls and spirits. something normally mortals are unable to see but still exist in the world. in a way Coro would not need too much retcon here as it still fits rather well.
I have always considered the souls and ghosts as in the physical world... so....
hmmm some of coro's abilities would be similar to psionics... the soul abilities do allow for protection towards mind manipulation and permanent mind damage... though enough force can shatter the soul barrier she uses to protect herself from such attacks. a farely adapt psionic would be able to distract her enough to slow her actions as she would need to focus on repairing against the psionic attack. she also uses the soul as a gateway into another mind. so... i think it would work exceptionally similar to psionics.. i hope its not too much of an issue for anyone.
Coro when "invading" another's dream goes comatose for that reason. for her to wake the host also needs to. this poses a risk as if the host fails to ever wake again she too will never wake.
i only have one thing that is made of god like material...though it can't do anything to protect coro from fatal wounds... her transformation device is nearly indestructable to resist the effects of her transforming which brings that up too.... i plan to lessen how often she uses that.... basically only as a diplomatic like tool. Change into another race to allow the target to feel more comfortable remaining in an avali form otherwise. i find dragon coro would be too intense of an advantage. I am also thinking of TF sickness... basically she changes and is unable to focus her soul abilities and feels groggy for a period of time.
basically same coro'vali just increased strain on using her soul abilities and without the ability to change into a dragon at a moments notice...
This is a SERIOUS rp, so just taxing everything isn't going to work sadly, I honestly don't think we're going to allow any shapeshifting as its basically rewriting your atomic structure.
I do though think the soul stuff will work fine.
We could introduce tech able to, with the cost of an obscene amount of power activate a certain DNA rewrite permanently, like no going back after dragon. Like what it would be in real life, if that tech existed on that level which it probably doesn't and never will due to well many things.
(09-05-2015, 02:03 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 01:46 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]This is a SERIOUS rp, so just taxing everything isn't going to work sadly, I honestly don't think we're going to allow any shapeshifting as its basically rewriting your atomic structure.
I do though think the soul stuff will work fine.
We could introduce tech able to, with the cost of an obscene amount of power activate a certain DNA rewrite permanently, like no going back after dragon. Like what it would be in real life, if that tech existed on that level which it probably doesn't and never will due to well many things.
You realize he's going to want to do it on the fly right?
His way or the highway.
(09-05-2015, 02:10 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:03 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]We could introduce tech able to, with the cost of an obscene amount of power activate a certain DNA rewrite permanently, like no going back after dragon. Like what it would be in real life, if that tech existed on that level which it probably doesn't and never will due to well many things.
You realize he's going to want to do it on the fly right?
His way or the highway.
Yes I get that, but shapeshifting could work, provided it's a one-way thing, the original shape is gone, dead.
Provided he was carrying around a large box bending(Long and boring theoretical explanation goes here.)that was bigger on the inside he could have teh equipment with him.
(09-05-2015, 01:46 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 01:32 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]Okay i am here and latee to the party like usual. i have a few thing i need to clear up a bit
I don't mind though most likely i will remain with my main i have been using
hmm i am not sure what i would call Coro's abilities but i already plan to have them set up with an intense cost like beforee.... maybe even worse
well the "Ethereal plane" coro continuously peered into with her soul abilities was decribed as such to keep complexity down originally make it a bit easier to understand. what i was intending to say originally was that Coro was simply using her abilities to allow her to see souls and spirits. something normally mortals are unable to see but still exist in the world. in a way Coro would not need too much retcon here as it still fits rather well.
I have always considered the souls and ghosts as in the physical world... so....
hmmm some of coro's abilities would be similar to psionics... the soul abilities do allow for protection towards mind manipulation and permanent mind damage... though enough force can shatter the soul barrier she uses to protect herself from such attacks. a farely adapt psionic would be able to distract her enough to slow her actions as she would need to focus on repairing against the psionic attack. she also uses the soul as a gateway into another mind. so... i think it would work exceptionally similar to psionics.. i hope its not too much of an issue for anyone.
Coro when "invading" another's dream goes comatose for that reason. for her to wake the host also needs to. this poses a risk as if the host fails to ever wake again she too will never wake.
i only have one thing that is made of god like material...though it can't do anything to protect coro from fatal wounds... her transformation device is nearly indestructable to resist the effects of her transforming which brings that up too.... i plan to lessen how often she uses that.... basically only as a diplomatic like tool. Change into another race to allow the target to feel more comfortable remaining in an avali form otherwise. i find dragon coro would be too intense of an advantage. I am also thinking of TF sickness... basically she changes and is unable to focus her soul abilities and feels groggy for a period of time.
basically same coro'vali just increased strain on using her soul abilities and without the ability to change into a dragon at a moments notice...
This is a SERIOUS rp, so just taxing everything isn't going to work sadly, I honestly don't think we're going to allow any shapeshifting as its basically rewriting your atomic structure.
I do though think the soul stuff will work fine.
... nice to see you too..
(09-05-2015, 02:03 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 01:46 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]This is a SERIOUS rp, so just taxing everything isn't going to work sadly, I honestly don't think we're going to allow any shapeshifting as its basically rewriting your atomic structure.
I do though think the soul stuff will work fine.
We could introduce tech able to, with the cost of an obscene amount of power activate a certain DNA rewrite permanently, like no going back after dragon. Like what it would be in real life, if that tech existed on that level which it probably doesn't and never will due to well many things.
I have stated that i intended to keep shapeshifting intensely down. I was never a great diplomat so i doubt even that will happen. its part of her due to how she is... i have already intended to have it play a part maybe once or twice at most. as for issues with using it for DNA rewriting... the device does not work right with beings that have a stable DNA structure. in other words its downfall is it can't be used on others. besides its my excuse to include coro. as for the taxing i am still working on concesquences. the inability to use soul energy is huge.... imagine a psionic attack against a cat... coro has no natural psionic powers. she fully relies on her soul abilities to protect her mind. a TF (which again is not gonna be anywhere as often as before.) would actually have serious issues. though when her abilities do return after a week or 2. her mind would slowly break free of the grasp. otherwise... during her lapse of abilities. her mind could easily be enslaved to even a wimp of a psionic.
(09-05-2015, 02:19 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:15 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]... nice to see you too..
I have stated that i intended to keep shapeshifting intensely down. I was never a great diplomat so i doubt even that will happen. its part of her due to how she is... i have already intended to have it play a part maybe once or twice at most. as for issues with using it for DNA rewriting... the device does not work right with beings that have a stable DNA structure. in other words its downfall is it can't be used on others. besides its my excuse to include coro. as for the taxing i am still working on concesquences. the inability to use soul energy is huge.... imagine a psionic attack against a cat... coro has no natural psionic powers. she fully relies on her soul abilities to protect her mind. a TF (which again is not gonna be anywhere as often as before.) would actually have serious issues. though when her abilities do return after a week or 2. her mind would slowly break free of the grasp. otherwise... during her lapse of abilities. her mind could easily be enslaved to even a wimp of a psionic.
I missed you by the way.
Marx, do your customary glomp.
(09-05-2015, 02:26 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:19 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]I missed you by the way.
Marx, do your customary glomp.
Me and him had a very unfortunate falling out, he still hasn't recovered...
He also took my stance against tf personally, as he usually does.
This discussion doesn't need to be here.
(09-05-2015, 02:41 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:26 PM)UnamusedAvali Wrote: [ -> ]Marx, do your customary glomp.
Me and him had a very unfortunate falling out, he still hasn't recovered...
He also took my stance against tf personally, as he usually does.
This discussion doesn't need to be here.
*sighs* no i didn't take it personally but your usually the first to jump on me for some reason.. so i have just accepted it somewhat.
(09-05-2015, 02:51 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:41 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]Me and him had a very unfortunate falling out, he still hasn't recovered...
He also took my stance against tf personally, as he usually does.
This discussion doesn't need to be here.
*sighs* no i didn't take it personally but your usually the first to jump on me for some reason.. so i have just accepted it somewhat.
It was coincidence my friend relax, that and, TF stuff creeps me out big time.
I'm willing to make an exception for you though, I know you won't abuse it like someone else here.
Anyways, really good to see you, be nice if you showed up on the main thread.
(09-05-2015, 02:53 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2015, 02:51 PM)Corosar Wrote: [ -> ]*sighs* no i didn't take it personally but your usually the first to jump on me for some reason.. so i have just accepted it somewhat.
It was coincidence my friend relax, that and, TF stuff creeps me out big time.
I'm willing to make an exception for you though, I know you won't abuse it like someone else here.
Anyways, really good to see you, be nice if you showed up on the main thread.
I rather dislike abusing powers that could easily go too far. as for going to the main thread... sadly... i can't do that... it would add too much to what i do all day and be unable to keep up with it.