(09-09-2015, 12:28 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-08-2015, 10:37 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]Ill do a Sigmund and throw something down.
Brain waves influence gravitons, extremely limited range, can be amplified with tuned magnets?
Should I bother elaborating?
REVERSE SIGMUND. I have been drained for some time which is why I wasn't here, but you're still an ass for trying.
Simple version:
Energy fields, or something. Some shit about manifestation of will or psi or whatever aesop I need you to learn today.
Can also use it to LIFT OBJECTS and throw them. Also based on aesop energy.
Cybernetics let you plant probes into your hands to let you fuck around with the properties of matter at a hefty energy cost. Melt your friends!
But my idea actually made some sense, wasn't completely cooked up...
(09-09-2015, 12:28 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]REVERSE SIGMUND. I have been drained for some time which is why I wasn't here, but you're still an ass for trying.
Simple version:
Energy fields, or something. Some shit about manifestation of will or psi or whatever aesop I need you to learn today.
Can also use it to LIFT OBJECTS and throw them. Also based on aesop energy.
Cybernetics let you plant probes into your hands to let you fuck around with the properties of matter at a hefty energy cost. Melt your friends!
There is this game series called Golden Sun (which I love btw) that has this term they call Psynergy. Do you think we could use a similar Psynergy system? I know you didn't want to do something magic related, but since we are doing psychic related stuff anyways then why not? It would be cool if my character has elemental psychic powers. I mean your character would either have to be born with psynergy or be hit in the head with a psynergy crystal then have a fever (and survive) in order to use it. Those were the two most known ways. I mean if we have to create some other way to gain Psynergy powers to fit with the RP then I am open to suggestions.
I always thought of the psychic abilities mentioned here similar to X-Com's system... where it manipulates matter through brainwave energy
Listen it's simple and I'll go into more depth later, perhaps even toss in a equation.
(09-09-2015, 12:28 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ] (09-08-2015, 10:37 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]Ill do a Sigmund and throw something down.
Brain waves influence gravitons, extremely limited range, can be amplified with tuned magnets?
Should I bother elaborating?
REVERSE SIGMUND. I have been drained for some time which is why I wasn't here, but you're still an ass for trying.
Simple version:
Energy fields, or something. Some shit about manifestation of will or psi or whatever aesop I need you to learn today.
Can also use it to LIFT OBJECTS and throw them. Also based on aesop energy.
Cybernetics let you plant probes into your hands to let you fuck around with the properties of matter at a hefty energy cost. Melt your friends!
...
What.
(09-09-2015, 04:55 AM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2015, 12:28 AM)SilverOtter Wrote: [ -> ]REVERSE SIGMUND. I have been drained for some time which is why I wasn't here, but you're still an ass for trying.
Simple version:
Energy fields, or something. Some shit about manifestation of will or psi or whatever aesop I need you to learn today.
Can also use it to LIFT OBJECTS and throw them. Also based on aesop energy.
Cybernetics let you plant probes into your hands to let you fuck around with the properties of matter at a hefty energy cost. Melt your friends!
...What.
He took my good idea and trashed it.
Ooh. World building. Time to study up on everything said so far.
(09-09-2015, 03:11 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]Ooh. World building. Time to study up on everything said so far.
Oh hi
(09-09-2015, 03:11 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2015, 03:11 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]Ooh. World building. Time to study up on everything said so far.
Oh hi
Hello.
Read everything already. Will happily join. Learn the history as we go since my character won't need to know everything only some things to exist. Not omnipresent.
Should look up phlogiston. The stuff of life. I'd point some flaws in things out but nobody knows me so it'd just anger everyone. Content to exist.
(09-09-2015, 04:12 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2015, 03:11 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]Oh hi
Hello.
Read everything already. Will happily join. Learn the history as we go since my character won't need to know everything only some things to exist. Not omnipresent.
Should look up phlogiston. The stuff of life. I'd point some flaws in things out but nobody knows me so it'd just anger everyone. Content to exist.
Phlogiston, old world belief that fire had its own element...
(09-09-2015, 05:38 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2015, 04:12 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]Hello.
Read everything already. Will happily join. Learn the history as we go since my character won't need to know everything only some things to exist. Not omnipresent.
Should look up phlogiston. The stuff of life. I'd point some flaws in things out but nobody knows me so it'd just anger everyone. Content to exist.
Phlogiston, old world belief that fire had its own element...
Actually. It was the belief everything was made of one specific thing. Thus my statement "the stuff of life". Old world alchemists thought that by "Adding phlogiston" to lead they could turn it into gold. And though lead is the closest element structurally to gold (give them the credit they deserve for that at least) it obviously doesn't work. They also believed fire burned phlogiston in the "air", which when in enclosed spaces would kill animals. Allowing them to deduce that animals must need phlogiston to live. I built a fantasy world off of it that used phlogiston as the source of magick. :U
Near the same system as apparently agreed upon here due to how I weaved it.
I love building great things. I'm the type that breaks anything I can from the force in star-wars to the subtleties of how broken you still left psionics by accident. Practice breaking means practice making things harder to break. I don't know why I'm hyper right now I'm tired to exhaustion at the same time.
(09-09-2015, 02:31 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2015, 04:55 AM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]...What.
He took my good idea and trashed it.
No, Marx. I already had that idea, but according to you I was taking too long to write out the details.
Don't act like you're good at worldbuilding, considering your last Nexus SRS RP character was an expy of you with scrapper drones.
(09-09-2015, 05:53 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]Actually. It was the belief everything was made of one specific thing. Thus my statement "the stuff of life". Old world alchemists thought that by "Adding phlogiston" to lead they could turn it into gold. And though lead is the closest element structurally to gold (give them the credit they deserve for that at least) it obviously doesn't work. They also believed fire burned phlogiston in the "air", which when in enclosed spaces would kill animals. Allowing them to deduce that animals must need phlogiston to live. I built a fantasy world off of it that used phlogiston as the source of magick. :U
Near the same system as apparently agreed upon here due to how I weaved it.
I love building great things. I'm the type that breaks anything I can from the force in star-wars to the subtleties of how broken you still left psionics by accident. Practice breaking means practice making things harder to break. I don't know why I'm hyper right now I'm tired to exhaustion at the same time.
What do you mean by "how broken you still left psionics by accident"? Please explain.
(09-09-2015, 08:49 PM)L3W Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2015, 05:53 PM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]Actually. It was the belief everything was made of one specific thing. Thus my statement "the stuff of life". Old world alchemists thought that by "Adding phlogiston" to lead they could turn it into gold. And though lead is the closest element structurally to gold (give them the credit they deserve for that at least) it obviously doesn't work. They also believed fire burned phlogiston in the "air", which when in enclosed spaces would kill animals. Allowing them to deduce that animals must need phlogiston to live. I built a fantasy world off of it that used phlogiston as the source of magick. :U
Near the same system as apparently agreed upon here due to how I weaved it.
I love building great things. I'm the type that breaks anything I can from the force in star-wars to the subtleties of how broken you still left psionics by accident. Practice breaking means practice making things harder to break. I don't know why I'm hyper right now I'm tired to exhaustion at the same time.
What do you mean by "how broken you still left psionics by accident"? Please explain.
Oh god please don't make him nerf Psionics more. They're already extremely nerfed nearly to the point that making one is pointless, despite whatever loophole you may have found. PLEASE IGNORE L3W! DO NOT EXPLAIN!
(09-09-2015, 09:49 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]Oh god please don't make him nerf Psionics more. They're already extremely nerfed nearly to the point that making one is pointless, despite whatever loophole you may have found. PLEASE IGNORE L3W! DO NOT EXPLAIN!
I don't like the way Lost Rinoah worded that. Also telling people to ignore me is not fair for this discussion. You should be lucky Silverotter is evening allowing the use of psionics and other psychic abilities at all... Since this is a serious RP then psionics needed to be nerfed just to be fair. Also they are not "pointless" people are just used to them being overpowered. Maybe it would have been better to just leave psychic abilities out then. Even though I was one of the few people who kept asking for them to be in this RP.
Wast asleep. Apologies. 28 hours awake does enough things. Been up for 100 before. Eeh.
Apologies for my wording if it annoyed you. There are certain things that still break psionics slightly. Like a psychology degree allowing any psychic to make anyone instantly depressed enough to commit suicide before forcing their hand so to say. Just one case in point. You might think "oh but they would need prior thoughts to do so right?" No. It's really easy to subconsciously lead someone into depression and further when you know how they work. The only ones "immune" are murderous ones who have few to no inner thoughts at all where you can only trigger anger responses. Then again you can just make them act errattically anyways.
This should be one particular ability case that is highly erm. Either completely disallowed or to the point where you may as well be blacklisted if using it without explicit agreement by any other parties involved. Near effortless takedown of entire groups.
Anyone else agree? We're a group so what I say doesn't "go" unless enough people agree or such. I could just be a bloody moron too. That's always possible.
(09-10-2015, 12:57 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]Wast asleep. Apologies. 28 hours awake does enough things. Been up for 100 before. Eeh.
Apologies for my wording if it annoyed you. There are certain things that still break psionics slightly. Like a psychology degree allowing any psychic to make anyone instantly depressed enough to commit suicide before forcing their hand so to say. Just one case in point. You might think "oh but they would need prior thoughts to do so right?" No. It's really easy to subconsciously lead someone into depression and further when you know how they work. The only ones "immune" are murderous ones who have few to no inner thoughts at all where you can only trigger anger responses. Then again you can just make them act errattically anyways.
This should be one particular ability case that is highly erm. Either completely disallowed or to the point where you may as well be blacklisted if using it without explicit agreement by any other parties involved. Near effortless takedown of entire groups.
Anyone else agree? We're a group so what I say doesn't "go" unless enough people agree or such. I could just be a bloody moron too. That's always possible.
Nah it's cool!
Actually what you just discussed above is really interesting! I can't believe no one else has brought this up yet... Also I apologize as well. I got upset for no reason. Today has just been a rough day. Anyways It's good to discuss these kinds of topics so we can work on ways to improve the psionic branch of psychic abilities. I agree with your points.
It's awkward when even a so called 1.0 could walk amongst a squad of a bunch of soldiers and have them instantly commit suicide. Many people have no idea how simple it really is. Just pierce the veil of protective ignorance and boom. Easy to manipulate.
It would not be hard. I HAVE studied psychology. A lot, at college/university level and beyond. It would be far too easy to do. Train in psy, study psychology. Super psy warrior. Only robots could stand against you. It's kind of eww.
Which is why I pointed it out, minimize "brokenness"(couldn't think of another word right now) while retaining as much usefulness and character progression as possible with the system.
Glad I can make sense to some people. Was getting nervous I was misunderstood. Thank you L3W. X|
Sucks that your day's been harshe. Hope it gets better for you if it hadn't already.
(09-10-2015, 03:42 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]It's awkward when even a so called 1.0 could walk amongst a squad of a bunch of soldiers and have them instantly commit suicide. Many people have no idea how simple it really is. Just pierce the veil of protective ignorance and boom. Easy to manipulate.
It would not be hard. I HAVE studied psychology. A lot, at college/university level and beyond. It would be far too easy to do. Train in psy, study psychology. Super psy warrior. Only robots could stand against you. It's kind of eww.
Which is why I pointed it out, minimize "brokenness"(couldn't think of another word right now) while retaining as much usefulness and character progression as possible with the system.
Glad I can make sense to some people. Was getting nervous I was misunderstood. Thank you L3W. X|
Sucks that your day's been harshe. Hope it gets better for you if it hadn't already.
The way I've understood what Otter has said, doing stuff like this, while possible, it would be incredibly easy to resist unless the person had been trained from birth, and even then trying to do so would be very impractical because of the immense extended concentration and energy needed.
(09-10-2015, 03:42 AM)Lost Rinoah Wrote: [ -> ]It's awkward when even a so called 1.0 could walk amongst a squad of a bunch of soldiers and have them instantly commit suicide. Many people have no idea how simple it really is. Just pierce the veil of protective ignorance and boom. Easy to manipulate.
That sort of stuff is way out of the league of a 1.0. Implanting thoughts is a delicate and difficult process.