Avali Nexus

(05-23-2015, 11:24 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:19 PM)Penguin Wrote: [ -> ]NO WAY OF TRAVEL COULD ALLOW ME BACK WITHOUT ME BEING TORTURED.

I BETRAYED MY PEOPLE, AND NOW I AM AN EXILE.

(Just, stop, with the magic)

(Just, stop, with the complaining)

(05-23-2015, 11:00 PM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 10:52 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]*Gonzo doesn't seem to notice, he's busy pouring different shards and gems into a large sack*

*his hut is a mess, there is a table to one side, covered in paper, in one corner is a small ink phial with one of his large wing feathers in. in the middle is what appers to be a cauldron, but with some large metal/wood construct with tubes and pipes going out of it and into a series of empty and half empty jars, all labeled with some image or symbol. one wall is just a large book shelf, with nothing but jars, jars, jars, jars and jars, all filled with all sorts of colorful liquids. there are a few chests and trunks around, some are open showing all sorts of things, gem-fitted belts, bangles and rings, raw ores, processed metals of many different kinds. you hear a agitated and drawn out sigh coming from a jar with a brain in formalin, it brain is floating in the greenish liquid, it's two red eyes stare stiffly at you as it lets out another agitated sigh. the room is dusty and reeks of all sorts of things, making it hard to breath. there are other small bits and bobs, odd ends and other tat laying around, a hexagonal lens with a golden gem-fitted rim, multiple books, paper with notes and diagrams EVERYWHERE, tools, half-finished golems, wands, staves, a normal-looking oven. all there seems of leasuire is a slightly comfy-looking chair with a pile of paper and a half-way empty jar of light grey/blue liquid*

What a set up. It even puts my botania and mana pool to shame.
*begins to walk towards gonzo*

*turns around, raising his right arm towards Showtime*
what the hell are you doing here? get out, NOW!

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 10:56 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]// so far i have a better explain magic system that makes more sense than any of the "science" that has been used, or even the FLOATING FUCKING CITY?! do you have any idea what kind of power that would need? the kind of "science" you want to use is just as bad as lazy-story-writing magic. while i do agree that some of the magic we have here is pretty *hand-wave, solve/cause problems* some of it has an ACTUAL system. Penguins i think is pretty hand-wave-y but Umbra still has some things not yet explained.

// please try not to be such a hypocrite.

// It's actually a bit complicated... It's still technically technology, though- it just originates from a shady source. I could probably PM the details if you're that interested, since I don't really want to clog up the page with an explanation :I

// i'd like to read it, and i think others would be too. put it in a spoiler.

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 10:56 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]// so far i have a better explain magic system that makes more sense than any of the "science" that has been used, or even the FLOATING FUCKING CITY?! do you have any idea what kind of power that would need? the kind of "science" you want to use is just as bad as lazy-story-writing magic. while i do agree that some of the magic we have here is pretty *hand-wave, solve/cause problems* some of it has an ACTUAL system. Penguins i think is pretty hand-wave-y but Umbra still has some things not yet explained.

// please try not to be such a hypocrite.

//You're cool, you have an explanation for it...

//Im talking about people who summon beings out of fuck nothing and casting bolts of pure energy from their bodies...

// i accept occasional magic but not the world running on it.

// and give me time to explain things before calling me a hypocrite you ass

// i think i already mentioned this to you, sorry if i did, Gonzo's "Magic" is based on Thaumcraft's mechanics and Lore, we've already had a few visits from the Crimson Cult (no one is worried we haven't seen them in a while? hehe...)

// to quickly explain Thaumcraft's mechanics is a bit hard, as there is quite a lot to explain. but to somewhat quickly explain it:
// everything in the world is composed of six primary aspects (the Primal Aspects), Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Order and Entropy. out of these aspects can be made compound aspects, such as the Life aspect. (from water and earth, that's sort of what life is/came from when you think about it). you can then combine compound aspects to get more compound aspects.
// there is more to mention, but that is the basics and the bad.

// and what i meant by calling you a hypocrite is that i have seen many, many cases of people using pretty much magic, calling it science. and so far, large cities floating out of the ground, one-handed pistols shooting 1 million volts of lightning with out need charge time, seems like magic to me. i'm sure there is more to it if you got an option to explain it, but so far, every chance Gonzo has had to explain something, he has taken it. if the problem is that you haven't gotten to explaining it, then that can (not saying it is) be your fault for not taking the initiative and doing the explaining.

// and lastly, i'm 100% in favor of dismissing people who use poorly/unexplained magic. Magic, just like science, needs a good explanation.

(05-23-2015, 11:24 PM)Penguin Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:23 PM)AustinLB90 Wrote: [ -> ]i bet you can't your probably going to die if you do, a lot of crazy things happen here leave while you still can.

AS LONG AS I CAN FIND SOME SORT OF "SAFEHAVEN" I SHOULD BE FINE.

I SHOULD BE SAFE.

i'm pretty sure there is none.

(05-23-2015, 11:24 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:19 PM)Penguin Wrote: [ -> ]NO WAY OF TRAVEL COULD ALLOW ME BACK WITHOUT ME BEING TORTURED.

I BETRAYED MY PEOPLE, AND NOW I AM AN EXILE.

(Just, stop, with the magic)

//no, heck no, my char has magic and i won't RP again if you take it all away from me and everybody else.

(05-23-2015, 11:24 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:22 PM)Penguin Wrote: [ -> ]BUT I AM SURE I CAN FIND A PLACE HERE.. RIGHT?

I'M NOT ONE TO CAUSE HARM, UNLIKE MY BRETHREN.

Well, that's good... I'd suggest the forest, but there's currently some strange robot city thing over there for some reason.
I think there's enough of a forest around the lake that you could find a place there, though.

I SUPPOSE.

THANK YOU.

MAY YOU BE SPARED FROM TROUBLES.

*It then walks over to the lake again.*

(05-23-2015, 11:25 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:00 PM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]What a set up. It even puts my botania and mana pool to shame.
*begins to walk towards gonzo*

*turns around, raising his right arm towards Showtime*
what the hell are you doing here? get out, NOW!

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]// It's actually a bit complicated... It's still technically technology, though- it just originates from a shady source. I could probably PM the details if you're that interested, since I don't really want to clog up the page with an explanation :I

// i'd like to read it, and i think others would be too. put it in a spoiler.

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]//You're cool, you have an explanation for it...

//Im talking about people who summon beings out of fuck nothing and casting bolts of pure energy from their bodies...

// i accept occasional magic but not the world running on it.

// and give me time to explain things before calling me a hypocrite you ass

// i think i already mentioned this to you, sorry if i did, Gonzo's "Magic" is based on Thaumcraft's mechanics and Lore, we've already had a few visits from the Crimson Cult (no one is worried we haven't seen them in a while? hehe...)

// to quickly explain Thaumcraft's mechanics is a bit hard, as there is quite a lot to explain. but to somewhat quickly explain it:
// everything in the world is composed of six primary aspects (the Primal Aspects), Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Order and Entropy. out of these aspects can be made compound aspects, such as the Life aspect. (from water and earth, that's sort of what life is/came from when you think about it). you can then combine compound aspects to get more compound aspects.

more explanation

// "Magic" comes from small "holes" in the world, called Aura Nodes, each Aura node will often only have 1-5 different aspects, often primal, sometimes compound. this is where a Thaumaturge (other, less broad word for wizard meaning Miracleworker).
// Gonzo can then use his understanding of these aspects to research (all the paper and books in his hut? yeah, when you don't directly see Gonzo, expect him to be looking over some research notes) new ideas and such, like golemancy and his wands.
// Magic can go wrong though, this system is not very safe, generally magic can go wrong in two ways, Taint and Warp.
// warp: if taint is the physical manifestation of Magic gone wrong, it comes when you learn something you're not really supposed to. it's effects are sever and often causes Thaumaturges to go mad.
// Taint: if warp is the mental manifestation of magic gone wrong, taint is the physical. it mostly comes from wasted/wasteful/ineffective magic, and in some cases unstable magic. when doing alchemy, you might waste some essence, or you open one of the many jars he has and let the essence vaporize out, it will start to congeal, corrupting things, this is really nasty and hard to deal with as it spreads like an infestation.

// there is more to mention, but that is the basics and the bad.

// and what i meant by calling you a hypocrite is that i have seen many, many cases of people using pretty much magic, calling it science. and so far, large cities floating out of the ground, one-handed pistols shooting 1 million volts of lightning with out need charge time, seems like magic to me. i'm sure there is more to it if you got an option to explain it, but so far, every chance Gonzo has had to explain something, he has taken it. if the problem is that you haven't gotten to explaining it, then that can (not saying it is) be your fault for not taking the initiative and doing the explaining.

// and lastly, i'm 100% in favor of dismissing people who use poorly/unexplained magic. Magic, just like science, needs a good explanation.

//id explain myself as well given time.

(05-23-2015, 11:24 PM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]*a group of well armed Angels asends to the ground from the sky, seeming to be escorting a containment device*

//okay maybe there are too many mystical beings appearing in one day, the treant stays though, and i would be willing to retcon only the elementals and the angels.

(05-23-2015, 11:25 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]// It's actually a bit complicated... It's still technically technology, though- it just originates from a shady source. I could probably PM the details if you're that interested, since I don't really want to clog up the page with an explanation :I

// i'd like to read it, and i think others would be too. put it in a spoiler.

// Oh, yeah, that's a thing. I'll write something up later...

// What the fuck?

// Is this just "LETS TRY TO DESTROY THE WORLD BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT" day?


// Also retconning elements means you reintroduce generation one fuckhead clone 9.

// Magic.

// I don't want to use magic anymore.

(05-23-2015, 11:29 PM)Penguin Wrote: [ -> ]// What the fuck?

// Is this just "LETS TRY TO DESTROY THE WORLD BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT" day?

// according to you and your magical beings.

//fuck we need canon police here, I'll sign myself up.

((Listen. I agree that magic should have rules and all that, but everyone needs to accept that in this RP, magic is a thing. In fact, it is multiple things. It will continue to be a thing, and has not stopped being a thing. If anyone has a problem with that aspect, they can go to the Starbound Forum Nexus RP Thread. They don't have magic there, except maybe souls but that's a small thing and soul-related "magic" is rarely seen.))

(05-23-2015, 11:25 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:00 PM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]What a set up. It even puts my botania and mana pool to shame.
*begins to walk towards gonzo*

*turns around, raising his right arm towards Showtime*
what the hell are you doing here? get out, NOW!

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]// It's actually a bit complicated... It's still technically technology, though- it just originates from a shady source. I could probably PM the details if you're that interested, since I don't really want to clog up the page with an explanation :I

// i'd like to read it, and i think others would be too. put it in a spoiler.

(05-23-2015, 11:02 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]//You're cool, you have an explanation for it...

//Im talking about people who summon beings out of fuck nothing and casting bolts of pure energy from their bodies...

// i accept occasional magic but not the world running on it.

// and give me time to explain things before calling me a hypocrite you ass

// i think i already mentioned this to you, sorry if i did, Gonzo's "Magic" is based on Thaumcraft's mechanics and Lore, we've already had a few visits from the Crimson Cult (no one is worried we haven't seen them in a while? hehe...)

// to quickly explain Thaumcraft's mechanics is a bit hard, as there is quite a lot to explain. but to somewhat quickly explain it:
// everything in the world is composed of six primary aspects (the Primal Aspects), Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Order and Entropy. out of these aspects can be made compound aspects, such as the Life aspect. (from water and earth, that's sort of what life is/came from when you think about it). you can then combine compound aspects to get more compound aspects.

more explanation

// "Magic" comes from small "holes" in the world, called Aura Nodes, each Aura node will often only have 1-5 different aspects, often primal, sometimes compound. this is where a Thaumaturge (other, less broad word for wizard meaning Miracleworker).
// Gonzo can then use his understanding of these aspects to research (all the paper and books in his hut? yeah, when you don't directly see Gonzo, expect him to be looking over some research notes) new ideas and such, like golemancy and his wands.
// Magic can go wrong though, this system is not very safe, generally magic can go wrong in two ways, Taint and Warp.
// warp: if taint is the physical manifestation of Magic gone wrong, it comes when you learn something you're not really supposed to. it's effects are sever and often causes Thaumaturges to go mad.
// Taint: if warp is the mental manifestation of magic gone wrong, taint is the physical. it mostly comes from wasted/wasteful/ineffective magic, and in some cases unstable magic. when doing alchemy, you might waste some essence, or you open one of the many jars he has and let the essence vaporize out, it will start to congeal, corrupting things, this is really nasty and hard to deal with as it spreads like an infestation.

// there is more to mention, but that is the basics and the bad.

// and what i meant by calling you a hypocrite is that i have seen many, many cases of people using pretty much magic, calling it science. and so far, large cities floating out of the ground, one-handed pistols shooting 1 million volts of lightning with out need charge time, seems like magic to me. i'm sure there is more to it if you got an option to explain it, but so far, every chance Gonzo has had to explain something, he has taken it. if the problem is that you haven't gotten to explaining it, then that can (not saying it is)  be your fault for not taking the initiative and doing the explaining.

// and lastly, i'm 100% in favor of dismissing people who use poorly/unexplained magic. Magic, just like science, needs a good explanation.

[your vision becomes dark and grim]
...
You know you want be able to run away with all your artifacts and research.
I'm here to lighten the load

(05-23-2015, 11:30 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:29 PM)Penguin Wrote: [ -> ]// What the fuck?

// Is this just "LETS TRY TO DESTROY THE WORLD BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT" day?

// according to you and your magical beings.

//fuck we need canon police here, I'll sign myself up.

//no because if you are then there will be no magic what-so-ever

(05-23-2015, 11:30 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]((Listen. I agree that magic should have rules and all that, but everyone needs to accept that in this RP, magic is a thing. In fact, it is multiple things. It will continue to be a thing, and has not stopped being a thing. If anyone has a problem with that aspect, they can go to the Starbound Forum Nexus RP Thread. They don't have magic there, except maybe souls but that's a small thing and soul-related "magic" is rarely seen.))

// magic is a thing, but not everything.

//and no I'm not going to leave because you want things your way

(05-23-2015, 11:19 PM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:11 PM)JacobDaGun Wrote: [ -> ]*He picks it up, holding it between thumb and foreclaw.*

*the stone glows and a blue circle Apears around you with all the zodiac symbols in gold, floating in infront of the circle*
It gets better

Does it do anything else besides zodiac sig-oh look, Pisces.

(05-23-2015, 11:32 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:30 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]((Listen. I agree that magic should have rules and all that, but everyone needs to accept that in this RP, magic is a thing. In fact, it is multiple things. It will continue to be a thing, and has not stopped being a thing. If anyone has a problem with that aspect, they can go to the Starbound Forum Nexus RP Thread. They don't have magic there, except maybe souls but that's a small thing and soul-related "magic" is rarely seen.))

// magic is a thing, but not everything.

//and no I'm not going to leave because you want things your way

//except you are out numbered most of us want magic, not overpowered magic but magic, and so you probably should if you can't handle that.

*walks back from some sort of.. adventure?*

BAAAH.

I need a weapon.

Explosives?

Too deadly.

You're just going to fuck up and kill yourself with that shit.

All right then.

A gun it is then.

(05-23-2015, 11:27 PM)Marxon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2015, 11:25 PM)Gonzogonz Wrote: [ -> ]*turns around, raising his right arm towards Showtime*
what the hell are you doing here? get out, NOW!


// i'd like to read it, and i think others would be too. put it in a spoiler.

// i think i already mentioned this to you, sorry if i did, Gonzo's "Magic" is based on Thaumcraft's mechanics and Lore, we've already had a few visits from the Crimson Cult (no one is worried we haven't seen them in a while? hehe...)

// to quickly explain Thaumcraft's mechanics is a bit hard, as there is quite a lot to explain. but to somewhat quickly explain it:
// everything in the world is composed of six primary aspects (the Primal Aspects), Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Order and Entropy. out of these aspects can be made compound aspects, such as the Life aspect. (from water and earth, that's sort of what life is/came from when you think about it). you can then combine compound aspects to get more compound aspects.

more explanation

// "Magic" comes from small "holes" in the world, called Aura Nodes, each Aura node will often only have 1-5 different aspects, often primal, sometimes compound. this is where a Thaumaturge (other, less broad word for wizard meaning Miracleworker).
// Gonzo can then use his understanding of these aspects to research (all the paper and books in his hut? yeah, when you don't directly see Gonzo, expect him to be looking over some research notes) new ideas and such, like golemancy and his wands.
// Magic can go wrong though, this system is not very safe, generally magic can go wrong in two ways, Taint and Warp.
// warp: if taint is the physical manifestation of Magic gone wrong, it comes when you learn something you're not really supposed to. it's effects are sever and often causes Thaumaturges to go mad.
// Taint: if warp is the mental manifestation of magic gone wrong, taint is the physical. it mostly comes from wasted/wasteful/ineffective magic, and in some cases unstable magic. when doing alchemy, you might waste some essence, or you open one of the many jars he has and let the essence vaporize out, it will start to congeal, corrupting things, this is really nasty and hard to deal with as it spreads like an infestation.

// there is more to mention, but that is the basics and the bad.

// and what i meant by calling you a hypocrite is that i have seen many, many cases of people using pretty much magic, calling it science. and so far, large cities floating out of the ground, one-handed pistols shooting 1 million volts of lightning with out need charge time, seems like magic to me. i'm sure there is more to it if you got an option to explain it, but so far, every chance Gonzo has had to explain something, he has taken it. if the problem is that you haven't gotten to explaining it, then that can (not saying it is) be your fault for not taking the initiative and doing the explaining.

// and lastly, i'm 100% in favor of dismissing people who use poorly/unexplained magic. Magic, just like science, needs a good explanation.

//id explain myself as well given time.

// just don't hesitate is what i'm saying. and sorry if i sounded angry, i haven't gotten all too much sleep, and exams have me a bit stressed.

//As primarily a spectator, I think the major problem here is totally random things being introduced with no prior explanation or relation to anything. There's some alright extended plots here which I can actually follow because they are introduced gradually and are internally consistent, but there is also a lot of *waves hand* <Huge problem from nowhere> *waves again* <huge problem is magically gone because I said so> which just trivialises the nature of whatever you were trying to introduce.

(05-23-2015, 11:30 PM)Shaadaris Wrote: [ -> ]((Listen. I agree that magic should have rules and all that, but everyone needs to accept that in this RP, magic is a thing. In fact, it is multiple things. It will continue to be a thing, and has not stopped being a thing. If anyone has a problem with that aspect, they can go to the Starbound Forum Nexus RP Thread. They don't have magic there, except maybe souls but that's a small thing and soul-related "magic" is rarely seen.))

// The problem is mostly that people are abusing the whole concept of it. While what Umbra and Gonz use are explained and not absolutely unbeatable, there's been a surplus of the kind of magic that just goes "poof! this happens!" lately. I'm honestly annoyed with it, as Marx is, because all it's being used for is stirring up trouble.
// Not only is it giving Umbra stress in the RP, but it's stressing me in real life as well.