(04-16-2015, 01:38 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:37 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
that is truly an awful idea
guns akimbo isn't something that really works, a gun and sword held like that would be even less effective.
And yet we're making a gun-sword, one of the possibly most impractical weapons (im)possible.
But you
do have a point. The recoil from the gun would be disorienting... If it didn't blow my arm off first.
(04-16-2015, 01:40 AM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:37 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
Gun and brass buckles?
Gernade launcher and scythe?
...
Uh, no.
Firstly, brass knuckles would be a
terrible choice.
Secondly, a Scythe kind of requires two hands.
(04-16-2015, 01:40 AM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]Gun and brass buckles?
Gernade launcher and scythe?
scythes already are stupidly ineffective weapons, and grenade launchers require two hands to fire normally.
"gun" is vague, but i could potentially see an assault rifle and brass knuckles possibly working, though you would be holding the gun with the brass-knuckle hand, rather than rifle in one hand, brass knuckle on the other.
(04-16-2015, 01:36 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:35 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
and thus a truly effective gunsword is made.
though...reloading and aiming may be an issue, I assume.
the sword will be underslung so normal iron sights will be viable, and the foregrip will likely be on the side, and embedded as part of the action to make reloading slightly easier, with a lock switch near the trigger to keep the operator from accidentally working the action during firing. as for clips a dual drum magazine with an overhead loading mechanism seems the easiest way to keep the gun above the sword, so the ammo capacity will be relatively generous, and with a spring loading mechanism the loading mech can be opened easily, then it's just a matter of sliding a new drum on.
(04-16-2015, 01:37 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:35 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]well a well-enough made carbine can keep the sword from weighing much more than a normal claymore, and I can probably still give the sword itself plenty of reach.
That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
I was thinking a large shield for the off-hand, designed so as not to get in the way of the foregrip but while also offsetting the gunblade's limited defensive applications.
(04-16-2015, 01:42 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:36 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ]and thus a truly effective gunsword is made.
though...reloading and aiming may be an issue, I assume.
the sword will be underslung so normal iron sights will be viable, and the foregrip will likely be on the side, and embedded as part of the action to make reloading slightly easier, with a lock switch near the trigger to keep the operator from accidentally working the action during firing. as for clips a dual drum magazine with an overhead loading mechanism seems the easiest way to keep the gun above the sword, so the ammo capacity will be relatively generous, and with a spring loading mechanism the loading mech can be opened easily, then it's just a matter of sliding a new drum on.
(04-16-2015, 01:37 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]That sounds nice.
Or I could always pull some Bloodborne shit; hold a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
I was thinking a large shield for the off-hand, designed so as not to get in the way of the foregrip but while also offsetting the gunblade's limited defensive applications.
That's a pretty sweet idea. I also had an idea for a cartridge replacement.
I've been experimenting with Ether crystals recently... Pretty interesting stuff.
(04-16-2015, 01:45 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:42 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]the sword will be underslung so normal iron sights will be viable, and the foregrip will likely be on the side, and embedded as part of the action to make reloading slightly easier, with a lock switch near the trigger to keep the operator from accidentally working the action during firing. as for clips a dual drum magazine with an overhead loading mechanism seems the easiest way to keep the gun above the sword, so the ammo capacity will be relatively generous, and with a spring loading mechanism the loading mech can be opened easily, then it's just a matter of sliding a new drum on.
I was thinking a large shield for the off-hand, designed so as not to get in the way of the foregrip but while also offsetting the gunblade's limited defensive applications.
That's a pretty sweet idea. I also had an idea for a cartridge replacement.
I've been experimenting with Ether crystals recently... Pretty interesting stuff.
I don't really want to resort to an energy system, they're space efficient but heavy. a big roll of bullets is actually lighter than the cooling systems and capacitors for a combat laser.
(04-16-2015, 01:49 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:45 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]That's a pretty sweet idea. I also had an idea for a cartridge replacement.
I've been experimenting with Ether crystals recently... Pretty interesting stuff.
I don't really want to resort to an energy system, they're space efficient but heavy. a big roll of bullets is actually lighter than the cooling systems and capacitors for a combat laser.
Uhm... It's not exactly what you think.
REALLY interesting stuff.
(04-16-2015, 01:51 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:49 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]I don't really want to resort to an energy system, they're space efficient but heavy. a big roll of bullets is actually lighter than the cooling systems and capacitors for a combat laser.
Uhm... It's not exactly what you think.
REALLY interesting stuff.
I doubt we could skip the cooling sleeve on any energy discharge weapon, but you're welcome to surprise me.
(04-16-2015, 01:52 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:51 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]Uhm... It's not exactly what you think.
REALLY interesting stuff.
I doubt we could skip the cooling sleeve on any energy discharge weapon, but you're welcome to surprise me.
All right. Here.
*takes out a small pistol, some parts glowing with some sort of blue energy. He opens it up, revealing a blue crystal behind what seems to be some kind of light adapter and in front of some sort of percussive lever*
(04-16-2015, 02:05 AM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:57 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]All right. Here.
*takes out a small pistol, some parts glowing with some sort of blue energy. He opens it up, revealing a blue crystal behind what seems to be some kind of light adapter and in front of some sort of percussive lever*
*takes a picture of he guns workings*
*it frankly doesn't make much sense, and the Ether crystal appears to be an ordinary blue crystal... except for the glowing*
(04-16-2015, 01:57 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:52 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt we could skip the cooling sleeve on any energy discharge weapon, but you're welcome to surprise me.
All right. Here.
*takes out a small pistol, some parts glowing with some sort of blue energy. He opens it up, revealing a blue crystal behind what seems to be some kind of light adapter and in front of some sort of percussive lever*
So the crystal stores energy, which is released on impact and then focused through the lens, but how does the barrel hold up under the heat?
(04-16-2015, 02:09 AM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:06 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]*it frankly doesn't make much sense, and the Ether crystal appears to be an ordinary blue crystal... except for the glowing*
Do you know where I can get some of glowing crystal?
It's not like you need to destroy planets to get it or something
Nope. But you won't be able to find any.
*quickly takes the crystal out and hides it somewhere on his person*
(04-16-2015, 02:11 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 01:57 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]All right. Here.
*takes out a small pistol, some parts glowing with some sort of blue energy. He opens it up, revealing a blue crystal behind what seems to be some kind of light adapter and in front of some sort of percussive lever*
So the crystal stores energy, which is released on impact and then focused through the lens, but how does the barrel hold up under the heat?
It actually doesn't produce much heat because of the crystal type. It also charges itself via the vibrations of atoms. Seriously useful stuff... Unfortunately, you have to travel to an entirely different dimension just to get some.
It does have a capacity and output limit, though, so you have to use the stored energy wisely. I was thinking of "paying" you with a few, as well as some different kinds to experiment with.
(04-16-2015, 02:12 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:09 AM)Joeythomas Wrote: [ -> ]Do you know where I can get some of glowing crystal?
It's not like you need to destroy planets to get it or something
Nope. But you won't be able to find any.
*quickly takes the crystal out and hides it somewhere on his person*
(04-16-2015, 02:11 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]So the crystal stores energy, which is released on impact and then focused through the lens, but how does the barrel hold up under the heat?
It actually doesn't produce much heat because of the crystal type. It also charges itself via the vibrations of atoms. Seriously useful stuff... Unfortunately, you have to travel to an entirely different dimension just to get some.
It does have a capacity and output limit, though, so you have to use the stored energy wisely. I was thinking of "paying" you with a few, as well as some different kinds to experiment with.
so it's primarily a stream of densely packed charged particles as opposed to superheated particles?
(04-16-2015, 02:17 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]so it's primarily a stream of densely packed charged particles as opposed to superheated particles?
Essentially, yes. Not so much a laser, as a fast-moving clump of energized matter. The design is surprisingly effective.
(04-16-2015, 02:20 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:17 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]so it's primarily a stream of densely packed charged particles as opposed to superheated particles?
Essentially, yes. Not so much a laser, as a fast-moving clump of energized matter. The design is surprisingly effective.
a cooler version of an ion cannon then, air cooling could be sufficient but I'd have to run some tests.
(04-16-2015, 02:17 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:12 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]Nope. But you won't be able to find any.
*quickly takes the crystal out and hides it somewhere on his person*
It actually doesn't produce much heat because of the crystal type. It also charges itself via the vibrations of atoms. Seriously useful stuff... Unfortunately, you have to travel to an entirely different dimension just to get some.
It does have a capacity and output limit, though, so you have to use the stored energy wisely. I was thinking of "paying" you with a few, as well as some different kinds to experiment with.
so it's primarily a stream of densely packed charged particles as opposed to superheated particles?
Pretty much, yeah. There's also different types that have different effects and intensities. If I were using an orange one, there would be as much heat as you'd expect.
It's not exactly researched in terms we understand, since its home dimension doesn't use our science.
(04-16-2015, 02:22 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:20 AM)Ehksidian Wrote: [ -> ]Essentially, yes. Not so much a laser, as a fast-moving clump of energized matter. The design is surprisingly effective.
a cooler version of an ion cannon then, air cooling could be sufficient but I'd have to run some tests.
No need. I've been doing a lot of research on them recently. The gun model in my hand actually works.
*reinserts the crystal, reassembling the pistol and firing a few shots at a conveniently placed test dummy*
(04-16-2015, 02:22 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:17 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]so it's primarily a stream of densely packed charged particles as opposed to superheated particles?
Pretty much, yeah. There's also different types that have different effects and intensities. If I were using an orange one, there would be as much heat as you'd expect.
It's not exactly researched in terms we understand, since its home dimension doesn't use our science.
(04-16-2015, 02:22 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]a cooler version of an ion cannon then, air cooling could be sufficient but I'd have to run some tests.
No need. I've been doing a lot of research on them recently. The gun model in my hand actually works.
*reinserts the crystal, reassembling the pistol and firing a few shots at a conveniently placed test dummy*
yes but I'm building the gunblade to my specifications, so I need the specs of anything you'll want incorporated in it.
(04-16-2015, 02:26 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:22 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty much, yeah. There's also different types that have different effects and intensities. If I were using an orange one, there would be as much heat as you'd expect.
It's not exactly researched in terms we understand, since its home dimension doesn't use our science.
No need. I've been doing a lot of research on them recently. The gun model in my hand actually works.
*reinserts the crystal, reassembling the pistol and firing a few shots at a conveniently placed test dummy*
yes but I'm building the gunblade to my specifications, so I need the specs of anything you'll want incorporated in it.
Oh, right.
*hands the pistol over, as well as a USB*
It's got a safety lock, so you won't have to worry about misfires. You might want to keep the reload mechanism for an air access port, since it'll still generate a little heat. It also helps gather energy faster.
(04-16-2015, 02:27 AM)Umbra Wrote: [ -> ] (04-16-2015, 02:26 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]yes but I'm building the gunblade to my specifications, so I need the specs of anything you'll want incorporated in it.
Oh, right.
*hands the pistol over, as well as a USB*
It's got a safety lock, so you won't have to worry about misfires. You might want to keep the reload mechanism for an air access port, since it'll still generate a little heat. It also helps gather energy faster.
*grabs the pistol and the USB, though the USB quickly sinks into his hand and it's debatable if it'll come back out later*
I'll get machining the parts then.