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(06-07-2015, 10:05 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:01 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]Hell no.
I'm almost certain that the disappointment at myself for doing nothing at all isn't as bad as the disappointment at how awful it will be if I go out and do it.
Dude failure is like 90% of an artist's work.
If you're gonna sit around and screech about how bad you are rather than trying something, looking at it, and then trying to improve on it, then you'll get nowhere fast.
I'm okay with that.
(06-07-2015, 09:51 AM)Reks Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 09:19 AM)SCN-3_NULL Wrote: [ -> ]so what are you going to do now? wait it out?
Nope, need money.

Looking for work already.
Well good luck with that, hope that you might find something you liked
(06-07-2015, 10:01 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 09:46 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]Stop playing vidja and draw something you buttmunch.
You'll never get past the "being shit at it" stage if you don't even attempt it.
Hell no.
I'm almost certain that the disappointment at myself for doing nothing at all isn't as bad as the disappointment at how awful it will be if I go out and do it.
Because nobody ever learned to do anything by trying right?

(Really. Art isn't an inherent skill, any more than driving, cooking, riding bikes. Most "natural" artists are only "natural" in so far that they drew lots when they were little, and didn't care about people's opinions)
(06-07-2015, 04:35 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]For God's sake ya cunts me and alpha are damn near the only people to post all day!
Vote surge most important poster!
(06-07-2015, 10:10 AM)Ryuujin Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:01 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]Hell no.
I'm almost certain that the disappointment at myself for doing nothing at all isn't as bad as the disappointment at how awful it will be if I go out and do it.
Because nobody ever learned to do anything by trying right?

(Really. Art isn't an inherent skill, any more than driving, cooking, riding bikes. Most "natural" artists are only "natural" in so far that they drew lots when they were little, and didn't care about people's opinions)
Still okay with it.
(06-07-2015, 10:08 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:05 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]Dude failure is like 90% of an artist's work.
If you're gonna sit around and screech about how bad you are rather than trying something, looking at it, and then trying to improve on it, then you'll get nowhere fast.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah nah
In a week's time you'll still be bitching about how you can't draw
So just for one day, maybe close down Generic Sci-Fi Game 2: Now in Space, pick up a pencil and some paper, and actually try to draw
(06-07-2015, 10:17 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:08 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]I'm okay with that.
Yeah nah
In a week's time you'll still be bitching about how you can't draw
So just for one day, maybe close down Generic Sci-Fi Game 2: Now in Space, pick up a pencil and some paper, and actually try to draw

Well it's either be disappointed in myself for not doing anything or I can be depressed that I tried and failed beyond my worst expectations, disappointed that I thought this time would be different somehow, and have a sore wrist.

still okay with it.
(06-07-2015, 10:19 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:17 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah nah
In a week's time you'll still be bitching about how you can't draw
So just for one day, maybe close down Generic Sci-Fi Game 2: Now in Space, pick up a pencil and some paper, and actually try to draw

Well it's either be disappointed in myself for not doing anything or I can be depressed that I tried and failed beyond my worst expectations, disappointed that I thought this time would be different somehow, and have a sore wrist.

still okay with it.
Jesus Christ Surge
Do you think every artist churns out masterpieces without even trying?
No, it takes effort and perseverance
Do you think I'm fantastic at art?
No, I'm not
But you know what I do?
If something I like looks bad, I look at it and think, "This sucks but I can do better"
That's literally it Surge
You suck, but you can do better
The only thing hindering your progress is yourself
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(06-07-2015, 10:23 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:19 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]Well it's either be disappointed in myself for not doing anything or I can be depressed that I tried and failed beyond my worst expectations, disappointed that I thought this time would be different somehow, and have a sore wrist.

still okay with it.
Jesus Christ Surge
Do you think every artist churns out masterpieces without even trying?
No, it takes effort and perseverance
Do you think I'm fantastic at art?
No, I'm not
But you know what I do?
If something I like looks bad, I look at it and think, "This sucks but I can do better"
That's literally it Surge
You suck, but you can do better
The only thing hindering your progress is yourself
One thing I've learned to do is just accept that I'm a failure and live with that fact. No sense in the unnecessary added stress.
(06-07-2015, 10:42 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:23 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus Christ Surge
Do you think every artist churns out masterpieces without even trying?
No, it takes effort and perseverance
Do you think I'm fantastic at art?
No, I'm not
But you know what I do?
If something I like looks bad, I look at it and think, "This sucks but I can do better"
That's literally it Surge
You suck, but you can do better
The only thing hindering your progress is yourself
One thing I've learned to do is just accept that I'm a failure and live with that fact. No sense in the unnecessary added stress.
So you think playing video games all day is going to help?
Surge, unless you actually try then you'll get nowhere, and just posting "i'm useless ;_;" isn't going to help.
I used to be like that, but then I grew the fuck up and realised it was pointless.
(06-07-2015, 10:42 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:23 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus Christ Surge
Do you think every artist churns out masterpieces without even trying?
No, it takes effort and perseverance
Do you think I'm fantastic at art?
No, I'm not
But you know what I do?
If something I like looks bad, I look at it and think, "This sucks but I can do better"
That's literally it Surge
You suck, but you can do better
The only thing hindering your progress is yourself
One thing I've learned to do is just accept that I'm a failure and live with that fact. No sense in the unnecessary added stress.

That's ridiculous and you know it. Don't be so down on yourself.
(06-07-2015, 10:48 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:42 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I've learned to do is just accept that I'm a failure and live with that fact. No sense in the unnecessary added stress.
So you think playing video games all day is going to help?
Surge, unless you actually try then you'll get nowhere, and just posting "i'm useless ;_;" isn't going to help.
I used to be like that, but then I grew the fuck up and realised it was pointless.
I'm just thinking out loud.
(06-07-2015, 10:48 AM)Segolia Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:42 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I've learned to do is just accept that I'm a failure and live with that fact. No sense in the unnecessary added stress.

That's ridiculous and you know it. Don't be so down on yourself.
Nah. I'm mediocre at best no matter what the task is, no point slaving over trying and failing to improve when I need to just accept where I am.
Is Surge depressed too now? Man, I missed a lot...
(06-07-2015, 10:50 AM)Rune Wrote: [ -> ]Is Surge depressed too now? Man, I missed a lot...
No? I tend to be less accepting of my lot in life or the futility of my efforts when depression sets in proper. Better for everyone that I just accept things and move on than sit around and whine.
(06-07-2015, 10:50 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:48 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]So you think playing video games all day is going to help?
Surge, unless you actually try then you'll get nowhere, and just posting "i'm useless ;_;" isn't going to help.
I used to be like that, but then I grew the fuck up and realised it was pointless.
I'm just thinking out loud.


(06-07-2015, 10:48 AM)Segolia Wrote: [ -> ]That's ridiculous and you know it. Don't be so down on yourself.
Nah. I'm mediocre at best no matter what the task is, no point slaving over trying and failing to improve when I need to just accept where I am.

Nobody got where they are by being complacent. It's a difference in attitude, not in capability, and you aren't going to get anywhere with your attitude.
(06-07-2015, 10:53 AM)Segolia Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:50 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just thinking out loud.


Nah. I'm mediocre at best no matter what the task is, no point slaving over trying and failing to improve when I need to just accept where I am.

Nobody got where they are by being complacent. It's a difference in attitude, not in capability, and you aren't going to get anywhere with your attitude.
Well I wasn't getting anywhere before, so I don't see an issue.


(06-07-2015, 10:55 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:53 AM)Segolia Wrote: [ -> ]Nobody got where they are by being complacent. It's a difference in attitude, not in capability, and you aren't going to get anywhere with your attitude.
Well I wasn't getting anywhere before, so I don't see an issue.
Do you want to be an artist or not?
It's fun to wallow in self-pity, but pretty soon you'll be too deep into it and you'll gte pissed off with yourself/
(06-07-2015, 11:02 AM)Sankoro Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-07-2015, 10:55 AM)Surge Wrote: [ -> ]Well I wasn't getting anywhere before, so I don't see an issue.
Do you want to be an artist or not?
It's fun to wallow in self-pity, but pretty soon you'll be too deep into it and you'll gte pissed off with yourself/
No I think I'll get along fine.
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